People Enjoy hard Games

[Atelier-Bagur]

Not everyone plays a job because it's easy to play. I play dancer because i enjoyed it in ff11 and like the aesthetics of its abilities and gear on ff14 and find it fun.

This is so true. Most of the time people pick classes because of their own personal tastes no matter if its easy or hard of if its the meta (to a certain extent on that one though).

I love playing Machinist even though its not as viable solely because I like its aesthetic. Same feeling goes to Red Mage or White Mage or Summoner. I love the class identity even though I criticize the dullness of healing and playstyle of Summoner (although it being actual summons rather than dot mage is the best direction imo and hopefullu gets expanded with 7.0

[Nebelheim]

This is so true. Most of the time people pick classes because of their own personal tastes no matter if its easy or hard of if its the meta (to a certain extent on that one though).

I love playing Machinist even though its not as viable solely because I like its aesthetic. Same feeling goes to Red Mage or White Mage or Summoner. I love the class identity even though I criticize the dullness of healing and playstyle of Summoner (although it being actual summons rather than dot mage is the best direction imo and hopefullu gets expanded with 7.0

I agree I pretty much think every job is pretty fun to play. The only jobs i lost interest in was healers and tanks.

[Payadopa]

I dont enjoy hard games tho..
but i like the option to play on harder difficuilty!.

I was able to play and finish Elden Ring because it had an option to play it "easier"..
by that i mean magic build..

Games earn more by having different difficulty settings..
Because people enjoy different difficulty settings!..

That's exactly it. But strangely enough all difficulty options are normal, easy and very easy for instances. I shudder to think what very easy even means. lol

[MistakeNot]

In short, XIV is too easy, and recent commercial successes reveal there is no reason to dumb the game down to where it is today.

Some people prefer hard games, some people want easy games, and many people enjoy both hard and easy games depending on how they feel that day.
So making a hard game will make you lose one part of your potential playerbase, and making an easy game will make you lose another part of that same potential playerbase.

Comparing an MMO to single-player games is difficult. Very, very few single-player games maintain their popularity for more than a year or two - then they will slowly disappear into obscurity. MMOs on the other hand can remain popular for many years since they constantly evolve.

[Renathras]

[b]People Enjoy hard Games

SOME people do.

SOME people do not.

And WHAT people consider hard and enjoyable is different from person to person.

Bad controls make things needlessly hard, but few people think Superman 64 was the pinnacle of gaming.

(Also, the critics on this forum are anything BUT silent; they can hardly be considered a "silent majority" considering how insanely VOCAL they are.)

[SieyaM]

Everyone on both sides of this debate want to say they are speaking for the silent majority, and really I don't think any of them are right about that. Most people seem to be enjoying what the game is and while they may want something more challenging or maybe even easier, they also realize they weren't sold a game that is promising white knuckle difficulty or even complex strategy. We are all being sold a online narrative driven game and that's what we got, the rest is just kind of extra bits.

[angienessyo]

I think that easy and hard content should exist within the game as leaning too much towards either demographic is very bad. I think stuff like alliance raids could use a small bump up in difficulty to make them less mindless. Orbonne imo was the perfect difficulty prior to the nerfs. Normal raids are actually okay where they're at, still on the easy side but it's not unusual to see a wipe in the newer ones. Expert roulette dungeons could probably also be a tad harder for something called "expert".

I personally love difficult games, I'm all about FromSoft titles as well as Team Ninja offerings like Nioh, so obviously I enjoy savage+Ultimate content in this game. But I wouldn't want all easy content to disappear as casual players belong in the game too. If anything it's not the game not having enough hard content, it doesn't have enough content for middle skill level players.

[RitsukoSonoda]

I think that easy and hard content should exist within the game as leaning too much towards either demographic is very bad. I think stuff like alliance raids could use a small bump up in difficulty to make them less mindless. Orbonne imo was the perfect difficulty prior to the nerfs. Normal raids are actually okay where they're at, still on the easy side but it's not unusual to see a wipe in the newer ones. Expert roulette dungeons could probably also be a tad harder for something called "expert".

I personally love difficult games, I'm all about FromSoft titles as well as Team Ninja offerings like Nioh, so obviously I enjoy savage+Ultimate content in this game. But I wouldn't want all easy content to disappear as casual players belong in the game too. If anything it's not the game not having enough hard content, it doesn't have enough content for middle skill level players.

The cause of that IMO is that "easy mode" players insist on claiming all content that isn't labeled extreme, savage, ultimate, as theirs so when something appears that hits that middle mark they start screaming "nerf plz".

[Soge01]

The cause of that IMO is that "easy mode" players insist on claiming all content that isn't labeled extreme, savage, ultimate, as theirs so when something appears that hits that middle mark they start screaming "nerf plz".

The "In from the Cold" instance comes to mind.

[Jojoya]

The "In from the Cold" instance comes to mind.

"In from the Cold" was not a combat skill issue. No one I knew that was failing had problem understanding how to use the 3 actions.

It was a puzzle-solving issue and we hadn't been presented with that in the MSQ before.

Not everyone is good at reasoning out what to do. They rely on guides to tell them. Adding an extremely visible timer counting down in their face increased the anxiety and stress they were feeling. Those who have trouble keeping a sense of direction in a game (even with a mini-map to help) would have those other issues compounded. I can remember needing to calm down a couple of friends who were experiencing severe anxiety and talk them through what to do after they failed and thought it was impossible.