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[VelKallor]

Hiya Stormpeaks...well I am assuming its you given your usual sneering..is this a new alt?

since apparently anxiety is a factor in how content should be built,

Yes it is, in much the same way as games have allowances for people who have phobias.

Anything and everything can be an anxiety trigger, some people have arachnophobia, so we shouldnt have any spiders in the game at all too.

Or the images can be changed. A new game, Satisfactory, has a mode that turns spiders into low res cats. it isnt hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ6bxL50-Gk

[SophiaDL]

Hiya Stormpeaks...well I am assuming its you given your usual sneering..is this a new alt?



Yes it is, in much the same way as games have allowances for people who have phobias.



Or the images can be changed. A new game, Satisfactory, has a mode that turns spiders into low res cats. it isnt hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ6bxL50-Gk

Then I'll be waiting for the day savage and ultimates are removed, and we all sit in Limsa all day, after all, we cant have people have anxiety now can we ?

[VelKallor]

Then I'll be waiting for the day savage and ultimates are removed, and we all sit in Limsa all day, after all, we cant have people have anxiety now can we ?

[SophiaDL]

So a timer in a solo duty can "create anxiety attacks" but not ultimate and savage ?

Interesting point of view there

If you want to make people be in a safe space, then remove all content, because all content can be panic attack inducing.

[VelKallor]

So....what happened to Stormpeaks? Just curious.

[SophiaDL]

So....what happened to Stormpeaks? Just curious.

You should stay on topic, or do you just pick your fights ? If you want to cater to people having "anxiety attacks" (lol) in a solo duty because of a timer, then what about savage ? there are dps tests, its also in a party setting, and is pretty difficult, which to me could be very anxiety inducing, what about those people with anxiety then ? Do they not matter ? Yet social anxiety is massive in today's world, but somehow they dont matter ?

If you want to go down the "cater to everyone" route, you cant pick your fights.

[VelKallor]

You should stay on topic, or do you just pick your fights ?

Uh huh. Nice handwave.

If you want to cater to people having "anxiety attacks" (lol) in a solo duty because of a timer, then what about savage ? there are dps tests, its also in a party setting, and is pretty difficult, which to me could be very anxiety inducing, what about those people with anxiety then ? Do they not matter ? Yet social anxiety is massive in today's world, but somehow they dont matter ?

They are different in terms of design, you and I know this already.

You are being deliberately disingenuous, any attempt to explain this further will of course be ignored. You have proven conclusively you are are not willing or capable of listening, so I wont bother trying. I COULD write a detailed answer, actually, regretfully, I have neither the time nor the crayons.

You and Montags wife have much in common, IMO.

[Rithy255]

I personally more prefer Midcore games, but you can't find that here.

Its so odd when you look at how easy normal content is but how much of a Jump EXT/Savage is from that. But even then the difficulty is generally memorising patterns, one players mistake = everyone's mistake.

Wouldn't know how they would go around making midcore content at least with current design, I think firstly they need to fix how boring and basic job design is before looking into more middle of the road difficulty.

[Remember_The_Name]

Even a basic " I think i saw something interesting to the northeast" would have helped.

Alright, you have an objective "Reach Camp Broken Glass". You still have your map. You open it. The direction to your objective is south-southwest. If you start running in said direction from the starting location, while looking around, you will either stumble on the Functioning (but dry) Magitek Armor or the dying pilot of said armor. Now you get the quest and all what is left is to carefully scrounge the area for fuel. Hell, if you just ran around in this closed area, you have more than enough time to kill everything and search it from top to bottom entirely.

Now here is me. December 2021. It was 25 minutes back there. And yet, I had enough time to search the whole damn area, pay respect to dead soldiers, even checked the pilot who gave me the keys from the armor ("maybe I can give him a medkit and drag him out in gratitude?"). I didn't realised there was a "regen" buff item in the area until then.

Also, the mobs share the same behaviour like 99% of overworld mobs. If you are not in front of them, they cannot see you and aggro. So... sneak behind them and avoid majority of the fights. (Hello, Eureka)

I just used my brain, tools and knowledge I had from my first day in Final Fantasy 14. I wasn't a professional raider or anything.

And, as other posters said, there is an "Easy mode" if you failed the duty. Also, failing a duty conveniently resets the timer. And if you remember what you had to do from the previous run (I hope) - you are on your way to success.


But looks like nowadays simply using brain is the anxiety-inducing task. For once in the entire frigging MSQ there is no pointing arrow on people's screen and they are already in shambles. Speaks volumes about why normal difficulty is so braindead in XIV.

[Jojoya]

It's a snowflake world these days in all honesty, you have to cater to every single person in the world no matter what they have, I actually wonder why we arent just sitting afk in Limsa all day with no content at all, since apparently anxiety is a factor in how content should be built, then we shouldnt have ultimates or savage raiding, I'm sure that's also anxiety inducing for a lot of people, hell, why even have anything at all ? Anything and everything can be an anxiety trigger, some people have arachnophobia, so we shouldnt have any spiders in the game at all too.

If you go the route of catering to every single person, you end up with an empty game, which is what FFXIV is. An empty shell of nothingness, with the most bland content there is, thank god the social aspect and glamour saves this game (and housing in my case)

In the end, the game is made to generate profits.

If they see specific points in the game where enough people quit due to failing to complete a certain duty or get feedback that players can't handle certain things due to phobias. etc., what happens?

They look at the problem area, decide how essential it is to the game's experience to remain as it is, figure out how much it would cost them to change the problem area, anticipate how much bad publicity might be generated if they don't change it, etc.

Is cost the negligible, as it was for changing the SGE icon? Then make the change - the icon didn't need the holes in it.

Is the cost to change less than the amount of revenue they're losing due to players quitting? Again, make the change. YoshiP had mentioned how they used to lose a large number of new players early in the MSQ when players were required to have level 5 gear equipped for a quest but most only had the racial starting gear with an ilvl of 1 equipped. What did they do? Increased the ilvl of that gear to 5 so all the player has to do is one of the side quests that rewards a hat or buy one off the very convenient nearby vendor.

Are they going to get a lot of bad press for not making minor changes to accommodate players with common disabilities? They're going to make those changes.

It doesn't matter what players think is or is not reasonable as an accommodation. SE is going to make the decision that is in their best financial interest. If they believe they'll lose more revenue by not making the change than it costs to make the change, they're going to make the change.

And so we have Normal, Easy and Very Easy for solo duties. It doesn't matter that Supersnow, you and I felt the duty was fine as is. It wasn't easy for many other players and SE saw that struggle in their data. They decided a change needed to be made.

Their game, their choice. Complaints that they're "dumbing down the game so toddlers can play" isn't going to influence their decision-making. They're going to make the decisions they feel are in the best interest of the game they want to make and the players they want playing it.

If you feel it's a shell of nothingness, so be it. You're still making the choice to play the game so it can't be bothering you that much.

In case you never noticed, this game has a noticeable lack of spiders compared to most MMORPGs.

But looks like nowadays simply using brain is the anxiety-inducing task.

No. The brain is creating anxiety due to not functioning correctly and that anxiety makes it more difficult for the player to do ordinary tasks. Trying to handle situations they have not encountered before becomes even more difficult.

It's not an imaginary problem. It's a very real medical condition.

Are you offended that parts of the game are made easier for those living with disabilities?