People Enjoy hard Games

[VelKallor]

I really don’t know how to say in a nice way that if you are having anxiety attacks at failing in from the cold you cannot reasonably expect content to be catered for you (outside of say “very easy mode”)

Supersnow, tell ya what.

Come to Sydney, we can go into the city. Ill drop you off in the middle , tell you that there is a ceruleum tank and a wounded pilot with a key to a damaged car somewhere in 6 city blocks..but I wont tell you where..oh and you have 40 minutes time limit

[Supersnow845]

Supersnow, tell ya what.

Come to Sydney, we can go into the city. Ill drop you off in the middle , tell you that there is a ceruleum tank and a wounded pilot with a key to a damaged car somewhere in 6 city blocks..but I wont tell you where..oh and you have 40 minutes time limit

Whether in from the cold did or didn’t have adequate explanation of where to go and what to do is completely irrelevant

I’m saying that if you are having anxiety attacks over a solo instance in a game you know has an easy option if you fail it once then that’s a case beyond what the game should really be making accessible for

[Jojoya]

I really don’t know how to say in a nice way that if you are having anxiety attacks at failing in from the cold you cannot reasonably expect content to be catered for you (outside of say “very easy mode”)

It’s the same as the argument where accessibility is good to a point, but if you make it accessible enough that your quadriplegic 134 year old grandma can clear all content then you are going to drive a measure of people who have the full range of accessibility away

Anxiety attacks from time stress are a lot more common than some people think. That's why schools will frequently make accommodations for students with such problems on important tests. It's usually whether the student can solve the problems correctly that matters, not how long they take to solve.

I understand the reason for the special timer. It added to the story telling by creating that additional feeling you needed to get through before something terrible happened. Personally, I enjoyed it very much. It's the only RP duty in this game I've actually enjoyed doing. The only interesting thing about the rest (as far as I'm concerned) are sometimes the cutscenes before and/or after. Most of the time they are fairly boring because you're limited to 3-4 action buttons plus the limit break.

But it's still a problem for those with the anxiety issue. Anxiety is not fun. It's something that happens on its own because the brain is not working correctly and not because they "think" themselves into it. They can't control the reaction.

This has not been a puzzle-game with time pressure until "In from the Cold". The few puzzles we've had to solve in the past had no time pressure involved. It was not a good decision to introduce one this far into the MSQ.

I somewhat wonder if there were any players who did end up quitting over it. I know a few players had said they were thinking about it when there was so much fuss over the duty at release but I don't know if anyone actually did.

[Yeol]

Some People Enjoy hard Games. On average, most people enjoy a little bit of challenge.

[VelKallor]

Whether in from the cold did or didn’t have adequate explanation of where to go and what to do is completely irrelevant

I’m saying that if you are having anxiety attacks over a solo instance in a game you know has an easy option if you fail it once then that’s a case beyond what the game should really be making accessible for

Its completely relevant. You now have 35 minutes to explore 6 city blocks, at night, with random enemies that spawn and attack you and will follow you,. I wont tell you anything at all, fail and you do it again..and again..and again..and again...

[Supersnow845]

Its completely relevant. You now have 35 minutes to explore 6 city blocks, at night, with random enemies that spawn and attack you and will follow you,. I wont tell you anything at all, fail and you do it again..and again..and again..and again...

If you fail it once you can put it on very easy mode

Regardless the 40 minute timer is ridiculously generous, I did it totally blind, fumbled around like a headless chicken for half of it and still cleared with plenty of time to spare

But again that isn’t relevant because I’m saying having an anxiety attack at a solo duty in ff14 (again when you know it can be made very easy) is beyond the scope of accessibility

[Noumenon]

Its completely relevant. You now have 35 minutes to explore 6 city blocks, at night, with random enemies that spawn and attack you and will follow you,. I wont tell you anything at all, fail and you do it again..and again..and again..and again...

I find it hard to believe that anyone failed it more than once.

[VelKallor]

If you fail it once you can put it on very easy mode

and this

The fact that very easy mode actually exists always just shocks me, like is very easy “in from the cold” the game just auto succeeding tha instance for you

Btw easy mode doesnt "auto succeed the instance" for you either. With all due respect, it would be appreciated if you didnt invent things.

I find it hard to believe that anyone failed it more than once.

As a mentor, I helped more than a few who failed it more than once. Not every person gets it right the first time, and has been said NUMEROUS times, the skill level of players varies widely. More than one of them was lost at the very start and had no idea what the hell to do or where to go.

Even a basic " I think i saw something interesting to the northeast" would have helped.

If I dropped you in the middle of 6 city blocks and told you to search for..something..what would you say?

Where do I start looking?

What am I looking for?

[SophiaDL]

If you fail it once you can put it on very easy mode

Regardless the 40 minute timer is ridiculously generous, I did it totally blind, fumbled around like a headless chicken for half of it and still cleared with plenty of time to spare

But again that isn’t relevant because I’m saying having an anxiety attack at a solo duty in ff14 (again when you know it can be made very easy) is beyond the scope of accessibility

It's a snowflake world these days in all honesty, you have to cater to every single person in the world no matter what they have, I actually wonder why we arent just sitting afk in Limsa all day with no content at all, since apparently anxiety is a factor in how content should be built, then we shouldnt have ultimates or savage raiding, I'm sure that's also anxiety inducing for a lot of people, hell, why even have anything at all ? Anything and everything can be an anxiety trigger, some people have arachnophobia, so we shouldnt have any spiders in the game at all too.

If you go the route of catering to every single person, you end up with an empty game, which is what FFXIV is. An empty shell of nothingness, with the most bland content there is, thank god the social aspect and glamour saves this game (and housing in my case)

[Supersnow845]

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Btw easy mode doesnt "auto succeed the instance" for you either. With all due respect, it would be appreciated if you didnt invent things.



As a mentor, I helped more than a few who failed it more than once. Not every person gets it right the first time, and has been said NUMEROUS times, the skill level of players varies widely. More than one of them was lost at the very start and had no idea what the hell to do or where to go.

Even a basic " I think i saw something interesting to the northeast" would have helped.

I said that comment as a joke I made it up intentionally

Please read between the lines