Genuine Question for Frequent Negative Posters

[SophiaDL]

Seriously, I don't even know where people get the idea that 7.0 is going to fix or even partially fix the problems with this game, it's not just one or two people, it's like the majority of the playerbase.

If you don't like the game at all, unironically save yourself the money and quit now because at this point this game is irredeemable. There's literally no point in waiting for 7.0 to fix anything. Spoiler: they won't. Only reason to stick to this game is for secondary, non-game purposes.

I'm not sure why are you saying this to me, I mainly do housing so I am not as "invested" as others in actual current, I absolutely despise the content in this game, it's absolutely boring, the jobs rotations are completely atrocious, I literally fell asleep while tanking alliance raid a few months back because of how boring the rotations are, there is 0 fun factor, it's just "hit the monster with this, then follow with this and this", 0 other options, it's just, blergh

[Banriikku]

Because its easier to attack the person instead of an argument. Also many posters here are just here for the "i win, you loose" not to discuss anything. For that reason i dont think OP is honest or has any "good intentions" but thats only my conclusion based on what the forum has become "a Battleground to WIN the internet and be a *redacted* to strangers" because there is never a human behind the screen and nobody cares and all is Reddit/Twitter level nihilst.

On the matter, to hope that OP is honest and i am wrong:
I love the FF ranchise. I grew up on it. But the FF games lately are getting more and more soulless. Without passion, just money making. No love for gaming or storytelling. Making money is all good but damn, no love or passion?
Just: "Look i made a FF, give me money"??
And thats just sad. So yes, i fall under the discription of fallacy of investment for that i am still here but i expect them to dissappoint me with 7.0 again.

I never expected them to deliver everything to my taste but to go full soulless gashgrab is just sad. EW is nothing more than a rushed story wrap up that needed time to breath. On the other hand the mogstation pricing is closing in to Korea-grinder-P2W nonsense without any betterment of the game in sight. We get less content and a extremly strechted storytelling that is hurting the story and the game as a whole.

These critique points are made by many and sometimes in a good and even eloquent manner but nevertheless constructive in most cases. I dont expect them to tell us or me any specifics but to tell nothing and DO NOTHING is just EA/Blizzard level of disappointment.

Yoshida and his team gave up on gaming and here for the money and only for that. But without any passion games from such people will have no soul. Thats the reason AC from Ubisoft has its problem. SO, yes i think EW is lacking a "soul", its not bad but also not good despite beeing made by the people that created FF16, ShB, HW, etc. . A game without a soul is not good and will fail over time. I take bugs and crashes over soulless anytime of the day but thats me and my opinion.

TLDR: No, the dev just dont care and want money. Thats all. Does not matter how we present any critique. They gave up on games and just want money with the least amount of effort. No, this is not a critique on money making, its the "only money nothing else" whats creating a problem for me.

[ZephyrMenodora]

How many of you have gone through life only getting negative feedback from others?

Or have you also received positive feedback so you know the things you've done well and should continue doing while balancing that against the areas where some improvement may be needed?

The devs are just as human as the rest of us. They need the positive feedback just as much as the negative. They need to know what players like just as much as they need to know what players feel needs to be improved.

That doesn't mean something positive has to be said every time something negative is brought up. But if you enjoy the game enough to continue subscribing, at least give some credit to what is keeping you logging in. Let the devs know that you do appreciate their efforts even if things are not perfect.

Feedback needs to be constructive, whether positive or negative, if it's going to be helpful in improving the game. When you resort to using hyperbole, derogatory words and insults directed at the devs or other players, you're undermining yourself. Those reading can't help but doubt the reasons you are posting.

If you feel like no one is listening, consider the possibility that the way feedback is being presented is causing the developers to tune it out. It's a rare person that's going to care about what someone says if that person comes across as nothing but hostile.

A lot of companies have policies for devs not to directly interact with players. Nothing good comes of it in communities as toxic as this one. If I was a dev and saw how people act here I’d stay far away. When people are rude and entitled they aren’t owned the devs time.

[RaenMan]

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The real answer is they're here to farm likes from negativity, and argue with other people as a form of cope. How many times have you seen someone here say they've quit then months later they're still posting as if they never said that. Sometimes they use the Free Login campaign as an excuse than they'll still be posting even well past it, meaning they obviously resubbed. Some have openly admitted they're here to argue and lash out at "white knights", not to actually provide feedback under. They've made friends here doing so, some even forming discord servers that brigade this forum, linking forum posts of people to brigade.

They will say they're here to provide feedback one day, then the next claim that the devs don't listen to this place at all.....meaning their wasting their time here.

Forum culture is largely negative. If you want to farm likes here, if you want to be "popular", you trash the game and trash other posters who still enjoy it. This has over time shifted the forum culture even more negative. if they were genuinely serious, if they genuinely cared, they would have realized by now that the devs are not listening, and unsub. They wont do this, not because they really care, but becaues they get off on venting their frustrations here. Many are paying subs (and being actively ingame just enough) solely to post here. There's a certain individual here who had two active accounts, one got banned, so he bought another (and boosted it to 80) just to circumvent the daily post limit (by his own admission), then those accounts got banned, and now he's back on ANOTHER fresh boosted account. Just to post here! Some of them will buy multiple accounts just to make it seem like more people agree with them and inflate the likes on their own posts.

Being opposed to the "GCBTW" has become their identity. Perhaps they cared about this game at one point, but not anymore. They also act the way they do because of the lack of moderation, giving them a (false) sense of security that they can be toxic as much as they want and get away with it. This, to them, has become their personal safe space to act however they want without repurcussion. However, it's not that there is no moderation, it's just that people aren't reporting them, I've recently come to the conclussion. You may have noticed numerous of them have been banned recently, several accounts in the past 2 days. I'd like to say that would teach them a lesson, but as we've seen some of them just come back on fresh accounts and commit the same offenses again. Or some, I've seen, wait out their ban, then immediatley act toxic again. Just report them again until they run out of accounts. I think being banned, for some of them, would be doing them a favor. They'll be forced to find something better to do with their time then lashing out at other people over a game they've long become jaded over, and hopefully move on to greener pastures.

[ZephyrMenodora]

The real answer is they're here to farm likes from negativity, and argue with other people as a form of cope. How many times have you seen someone here say they've quit then months later they're still posting as if they never said that. Sometimes they use the Free Login campaign as an excuse than they'll still be posting even well past it, meaning they obviously resubbed. Some have openly admitted they're here to argue and lash out at "white knights", not to actually provide feedback under. They've made friends here doing so, some even forming discord servers that brigade this forum, linking forum posts of people to brigade.

They will say they're here to provide feedback one day, then the next claim that the devs don't listen to this place at all.....meaning their wasting their time here.

Forum culture is largely negative. If you want to farm likes here, if you want to be "popular", you trash the game and trash other posters who still enjoy it. This has over time shifted the forum culture even more negative. if they were genuinely serious, if they genuinely cared, they would have realized by now that the devs are not listening, and unsub. They wont do this, not because they really care, but becaues they get off on venting their frustrations here. Many are paying subs (and being actively ingame just enough) solely to post here. There's a certain individual here who had two active accounts, one got banned, so he bought another (and boosted it to 80) just to circumvent the daily post limit (by his own admission), then those accounts got banned, and now he's back on ANOTHER fresh boosted account. Just to post here! Some of them will buy multiple accounts just to make it seem like more people agree with them and inflate the likes on their own posts.

Being opposed to the "GCBTW" has become their identity. Perhaps they cared about this game at one point, but not anymore. They also act the way they do because of the lack of moderation, giving them a (false) sense of security that they can be toxic as much as they want and get away with it. This, to them, has become their personal safe space to act however they want without repurcussion. However, it's not that there is no moderation, it's just that people aren't reporting them, I've recently come to the conclussion. You may have noticed numerous of them have been banned recently, several accounts in the past 2 days. I'd like to say that would teach them a lesson, but as we've seen some of them just come back on fresh accounts and commit the same offenses again. Or some, I've seen, wait out their ban, then immediatley act toxic again. Just report them again until they run out of accounts. I think being banned, for some of them, would be doing them a favor. Snip for length.

*applauds*. This is exactly what goes on here.

[SophiaDL]

*applauds*. This is exactly what goes on here.

This aint what goes on here, did you even read his post ?

Forum culture is largely negative. If you want to farm likes here, if you want to be "popular", you trash the game and trash other posters who still enjoy it. This has over time shifted the forum culture even more negative. if they were genuinely serious, if they genuinely cared, they would have realized by now that the devs are not listening, and unsub. They wont do this, not because they really care, but becaues they get off on venting their frustrations here. Many are paying subs (and being actively ingame just enough) solely to post here. There's a certain individual here who had two active accounts, one got banned, so he bought another (and boosted it to 80) just to circumvent the daily post limit (by his own admission), then those accounts got banned, and now he's back on ANOTHER fresh boosted account. Just to post here! Some of them will buy multiple accounts just to make it seem like more people agree with them and inflate the likes on their own posts.

Actually rare Zephyr L take right there, same for the rest of their post, they're just unhinged, let alone the tags they posted on this thread that they just removed because I called it out, insulting Macchiato with the P word.

Also hi Pratini/Raenman, using double accounts I see ? That's agaisnt the rules per your own post from an hour or so ago.

[SturmChurro]

So you expect someone like me for example that likes housing, hanging out with people, go to venues,glamours, just basically being social and doing housing, to just quit the game because I despise the mogstation stuff and I bash it ? Because I think the content is absolutely atrocious and boring in this game ? Because of those reasons, I should give up on housing and my friends and social activities in general ? Your take doesnt make any sense.

Generally, yes. Over the years, I have found if you have complaints or criticism, people do just try to nudge (manipulate), or outright push players who criticize aspects of the game to quit.

[ZephyrMenodora]

This aint what goes on here, did you even read his post ?



Actually rare Zephyr L take right there, same for the rest of their post, they're just unhinged, let alone the tags they posted on this thread that they just removed because I called it out, insulting Macchiato with the P word.

Also hi Pratini/Raenman, using double accounts I see ? That's agaisnt the rules per your own post from an hour or so ago.

Well, I will say the post that came right after the one I liked is way more drama than I need lol. Also thumbs down with harassing through tags. If you have something to say, just say it.

[Xaruko_Nexume]

Fashionably late as always.

I just read the entire thread from start to this point. It made me think about all the things in this game that I don't enjoy, and there is a surprisingly lot of it. Despite all that I still love the game for what I do get from it. To the naysayers, take it from someone with experience. I spent years on another games forums complaining and clamoring for change that in hindsight would have been bad for that game. I am glad I eventually realized that instead of being negative all the time about a hobby that I once loved and had changed, I decided to move on. Should have done it years ago.

That said, the tags for this thread are hilarious.

[CNitsah]

The real answer is they're here to farm likes from negativity, and argue with other people as a form of cope. How many times have you seen someone here say they've quit then months later they're still posting as if they never said that. Sometimes they use the Free Login campaign as an excuse than they'll still be posting even well past it, meaning they obviously resubbed. Some have openly admitted they're here to argue and lash out at "white knights", not to actually provide feedback under. They've made friends here doing so, some even forming discord servers that brigade this forum, linking forum posts of people to brigade.

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Waow. Just wow. How far do you need to go to think people don't go post negative feedback because they have negatives opinions on the current state of the game but rather because they want some like. I'm baffled.