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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    ??? How are you possibly mixing implications to this degree? Roe was talking about the net reduction in decision-making consequent to letting Surging Tempest stack to 60s because it is the only GCD-applied buff that was changed from non-stacking to stacking -- i.e., the only relevant example of the change you're suggesting.

    And if even it reduced skill ceiling to that degree...
    [EDIT: Let me try to be more polite...]

    I was explaining why they aren't the same. I'm sorry the concept of "Here's how those two things are different" goes over your head. In simple terms, WAR doesn't have extra decision making because, outside of trying to use Storm's Path instead of Storm's Eye during burst, there's no time that you need to pool Storm's Eyes. There's no time in a fight letting the buff go really low (<9 sec) so you can quickly use two Storm's Eyes in a row is beneficial to you. Unlike stacking Dia, which would allow you to play with the duration to allow you better damage optimized movement, Storm's Eye does not share that quality.

    That's how they're different.

    That's entirely relevant to the discussion because that difference is what would allow stacking Dia to have a higher skill ceiling and reward foresight where non-stacking Dia does not vs Storm's Path not sharing that quality.

    Given the thing we're talking about is high skill ceiling and rewarding foresight, that difference is absolutely relevant.

    EDIT: Also note that Storm's Eye doesn't benefit from buff snapshotting, while Dia would. Meaning that's yet another layer of complexity and skill ceiling Dia stacking has over Storm's Eye stacking.

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    I'm pointing out how Dia stacking would not be like Storm's Eye stacking in the specific ways that count for what we're discussing. Pretty sure that's relevant.
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    Last edited by Renathras; 08-11-2023 at 06:24 AM. Reason: Marked with EDIT