Let's talk about bot housing business

[LianaThorne]

If we were talking about the less populated servers alone I would agree. On the servers where plots have had upwards of 300 bidders I doubt that would be possible.
But if you can show me how it's done I would acquiesce. From what I've gathered from your arguments, I would expect that you can, yes?

Tbf some people have the ability to pile dozens of bids onto a house depending on how many alts they have prepared. One person in Dyna made it pretty known they had 30+ to go for buying a large. I wouldn't be shocked if there are others with the same ability across the other servers.

[Khryseis_Astra]

I been saying it for awhile. Both fc and private housing need to be moved to instanced. Would stop people from doing this.

I also think the devs don't pull the trigger because they afraid too. I mean, these folks figured out how to make it possible to region travel in the game. How is it not possible to scrap the housing system and just put it instanced

They wouldn’t even need to scrap the existing system, just add instanced as an additional alternative. No one’s going to care if some rando has 50 plots if everyone is guaranteed their own fully functional house.

The scarcity is the bigger problem. You have someone taking up 8 houses (per account) on servers where everything is pretty much picked clean for private buyers and people are understandably going to be upset at those hoarding a limited resource, whatever the reason.

[Archeron]

This discussion is exactly why people shouldnt talk about what they have no idea of, I dont raid savage, I dont talk about savage as if I know how savage works, I dont fish, I dont pretend to know how fishing works.

Ok, so no answer, typical Stormpeaks response. "If I dont have muh hundreds of millions I clearly must turn to RMT! How will I ever be able to flex on peasants with no money?!?!?!?!? You're clearly wrong and I just won't explain because I'm so right!" Ridiculous, but what can we expect coming from the mouth of a multi home owner and sub farmer who flexes in various threads on the forums about their multi home owning

[AlexiaD]

Ok, so no answer, typical Stormpeaks response. "If I dont have muh hundreds of millions I clearly must turn to RMT! How will I ever be able to flex on peasants with no money?!?!?!?!? You're clearly wrong and I just won't explain because I'm so right!" Ridiculous, but what can we expect coming from the mouth of a multi home owner and sub farmer who flexes in various threads on the forums about their multi home owning

Or maybe you're just clueless and you arent worth arguing with, some other people bring up decent points, but you make none, also lol @ Flex on peasants with no money, if you think any multiowner cares about flexing money on people, that really shows you have even less of a clue than I thought, as for "flexes in various threads" I have "flexed" once, and removed my post after because it was in response to someone that was a multiowner themselves and were trying to act smart bragging about having 30 shell fcs.

Good attempt though, didnt expect much better from you

Tbf some people have the ability to pile dozens of bids onto a house depending on how many alts they have prepared. One person in Dyna made it pretty known they had 30+ to go for buying a large. I wouldn't be shocked if there are others with the same ability across the other servers.

Any proper multiowner that has plans to expand will have multiple bids available per FC yes, just in case.

They wouldn’t even need to scrap the existing system, just add instanced as an additional alternative. No one’s going to care if some rando has 50 plots if everyone is guaranteed their own fully functional house.

The scarcity is the bigger problem. You have someone taking up 8 houses (per account) on servers where everything is pretty much picked clean for private buyers and people are understandably going to be upset at those hoarding a limited resource, whatever the reason.

Add instanced housing on the island sure, but leave the normal housing areas alone, there is no need for instanced housing on normal housing zones. Also "a limited resource" is a bit comical considering the amount of open plots on every world, minus the extremely populated NA servers. A medium or large is a luxury, not a given, a small on the other hand is very easy to get.

[Reddyo]

They wouldn’t even need to scrap the existing system, just add instanced as an additional alternative. No one’s going to care if some rando has 50 plots if everyone is guaranteed their own fully functional house.

The scarcity is the bigger problem. You have someone taking up 8 houses (per account) on servers where everything is pretty much picked clean for private buyers and people are understandably going to be upset at those hoarding a limited resource, whatever the reason.

Exactly! Bots wouldn't bot if there wouldn't be this artificial problem ^^

[AngelCheese77]

So the issue is there are many unclaimed lots but OP is upset because people got the good plots?

I don’t let this bother me. I admit if it was something where there was no housing at all on a world and clearly one FC or player grabbed up many wards is a thing to rabble rouser about.

[AlexiaD]

Exactly! Bots wouldn't bot if there wouldn't be this artificial problem ^^

This you? You still dont understand submariners/multiowners arent bots do you ? Also what does limited resource have to do with multiowners taking the plots, you really have no idea what you're even saying at this point

Multiple people in this thread have asked you for evidence of botting, but obviously you dont have any as you ignored every single of those posts, you're just saying that word over and over again trying to convince yourself that you're right, it's a bit cringe

[Jonsky]

I actually can, had to switch since out of posts.

By all means, please do. As I am clueless, I would really like to know how that was/is done.

Hmm, yeah...my claim of 300 seems a bit much, however during the time the housing lottery was introduced it was possible.
That number would certainly be much lower so perhaps if there were 10 bids per any random plot, a prospective multi-house owner would maybe get a handful of successful bids rather than half of a subdivision. I would see that as a win.

Going nuclear wouldn't really resolve much.

One can dream that it would. But in reality? Yeah...going nuclear would be akin to the ending of 1.0. The (next) best suggestion I've seen is to just hamstring the potential gains of the raw gil output of FC Voyages. Maybe remove vendor trash entirely? The rare minions and crafting materials seems more than enough reason to keep going with this style of content.

One person in Dyna made it pretty known they had 30+ to go for buying a large.

Ouch, that sucks. I expect that they used their profits from owning other houses to fund that. I do wonder how spread-out multi-owners can be if they had the chance to bid on any and all plots if they suddenly became available.

[AlexiaD]

By all means, please do. As I am clueless, I would really like to know how that was/is done.

Hmm, yeah...my claim of 300 seems a bit much, however during the time the housing lottery was introduced it was possible.
That number would certainly be much lower so perhaps if there were 10 bids per any random plot, a prospective multi-house owner would maybe get a handful of successful bids rather than half of a subdivision. I would see that as a win.



One can dream that it would. But in reality? Yeah...going nuclear would be akin to the ending of 1.0. The (next) best suggestion I've seen is to just hamstring the potential gains of the raw gil output of FC Voyages. Maybe remove vendor trash entirely? The rare minions and crafting materials seems more than enough reason to keep going with this style of content.



Ouch, that sucks. I expect that they used their profits from owning other houses to fund that. I do wonder how spread-out multi-owners can be if they had the chance to bid on any and all plots if they suddenly became available.

Once again, you seem to imply that multiowners have no clue about housing, I am not going to go in extra details because I dont see the point, but you wouldnt go for all the larges, mediums and smalls at once, you would scatter them, start with the most wanted large in the ward to remove competition, then the least liked larges, then the mediums, and then the smalls, over multiple cycles, probably 2 or 3, if the board was completely erased and it was a start from zero, people would just pile up on the other most popular plots over the few cycles, leaving you a clean slate to get the mediums and smalls over 2 or 3 cycles at most, 4 if lacking fcs.

[Archeron]

Or maybe you're just clueless and you arent worth arguing with, some other people bring up decent points, but you make none, also lol @ Flex on peasants with no money, if you think any multiowner cares about flexing money on people, that really shows you have even less of a clue than I thought, as for "flexes in various threads" I have "flexed" once, and removed my post after because it was in response to someone that was a multiowner themselves and were trying to act smart bragging about having 30 shell fcs.

Good attempt though, didnt expect much better from you.

That doesn't change anything. You still openly flexed about how much housing you own, and shows your character. You won't argue with me or provide any facts because you know what your doing is clearly against terms of service. You don't care about the community at large when you buy up large amounts of housing. I find it more hilarious that you feel the need to continue posting on an alt account. You must have something to hide with your awfully defensive responses.