Alliance raid fix?

[Ivtrix]

Honestly it will be really amusing to watch line 6-10 people drop when you get thrown into lighthouse

[TheOperator3712]

That's not what's being suggested. There's a third-party plogon that tells you what the roulette duty is before you accept the queue, so people using it will see one of the slog raids and just take a strike by declining, since you can do that 3 times before even getting a penalty.

There is no such tool anymore, nor has there been since Stormblood. There was a change made back then that destroyed that tool's functionality and prevented any similar tool from being made. I don't recall if it was a targeted change or part of a backend system revamp that was necessary for cross world to happen though. *shrug* I never used it so I don't have any more insight to give on it, other than, it hasn't existed for years now.

[Fyrebrand]

I think the workaround is someone will make an alt just for CT, keep it at 50 and create a premade party before queuing for alliance raid. The alt will probably AFK while the invitee plays. Once it hits level 60, delete and repeat.

Huh? Why delete at 60? You would still have to do the quests to unlock the raids, to get them in your roulette, wouldn't you?

Like, I had a White Mage at level 90 before I was even fully done Shadowbringers. You're telling me if I queued in Alliance Raid roulette under this system, I could have been thrown into Aglaia or Euphrosyne? In my level 80 gear? Not having even started Endwalker yet?

[Jojoya]

I think the workaround is someone will make an alt just for CT, keep it at 50 and create a premade party before queuing for alliance raid. The alt will probably AFK while the invitee plays. Once it hits level 60, delete and repeat.

Why go to that much effort when all someone needs to do is not unlock the other Alliance raids?

No need to unlock Sky Pirates unless you want to do Tataru's Grand Adventure.

No need to unlock Ivalice unless you want to do the Resistance relics.

No need to unlock YoRHa.

No need to unlock Myths of the Realm.

[Duskane]

I think anyone really upset with the change just won't do 24 man roulette similar to MSQ roulette
just don't expect orbone or puppets that often because itll still be CT 60% of the time

[Rolder50]

None of the raids take an hour barring the extremely rare disastrous run because you happen to have several new players. Even Tower, the longest raid, is under 40 minutes. It's fine to say they're too long but let's not exaggerate here.

Compared to LotA or Sycrus which are ~15 minutes...

[nivada]

I hope this change, will also force people to have the alliance raid unlocked at their level, to queue for the alliance roullete, otherwise the ilvl cheesers will just not unlock any other raid, for the guaranteed ct, since they won't have anything else unlocked.

edit: of course they could always, keep queing with other jobs, that are lower level but with roullete xp, they will eventually be pushed over the boundary for every class anyway where they have to unlock the next one to be able to keep queing.

[Saraide]

I hope this change, will also force people to have the alliance raid unlocked at their level, to queue for the alliance roullete, otherwise the ilvl cheesers will just not unlock any other raid, for the guaranteed ct, since they won't have anything else unlocked.

edit: of course they could always, keep queing with other jobs, that are lower level but with roullete xp, they will eventually be pushed over the boundary for every class anyway where they have to unlock the next one to be able to keep queing.

Well you're not ilvl cheesing if you queue with a lvl 50 job.

[Reinha]

Honestly it will be really amusing to watch line 6-10 people drop when you get thrown into lighthouse

Up to 10/24 party members are cheesing their item level? People are straight up lying when they try to claim this doesn't affect how many CT parties are formed in the roulette and how often it pops.

Why go to that much effort when all someone needs to do is not unlock the other Alliance raids?

I hope this change, will also force people to have the alliance raid unlocked at their level, to queue for the alliance roullete, otherwise the ilvl cheesers will just not unlock any other raid, for the guaranteed ct, since they won't have anything else unlocked.

I think the people complaining and cheesing have already unlocked other raids on their main character. Otherwise they wouldn't have felt the need to cheese in the first place. They can't go back in time and un-unlock the higher level raids.

To which I offer the same sarcastic remark that was given to us who are tired of running nothing but CT: just queue directly for the duty you want to do and don't do the roulette if you don't like it.

[Saraide]

Up to 10/24 party members are cheesing their item level? People are straight up lying when they try to claim this doesn't affect how many CT parties are formed in the roulette and how often it pops.

I love how you are deliberately misunderstanding everything in this thread.