Alliance raid fix?

[PyurBlue]

They should have just made separate roulettes, this change doesn't do anything. CT is still boring, CT will still appear the majority of the time, and now leveling alts or new characters has an additional and potentially obstructive limitation when queuing.

[Iscah]

They should have just made separate roulettes, this change doesn't do anything. CT is still boring, CT will still appear the majority of the time, and now leveling alts or new characters has an additional and potentially obstructive limitation when queuing.

Less people solely eligible for CT means less overall runs of CT versus other raids, which means less people-who-want-variety getting dragged down to fill the last few seats for yet another CT run.

Also, that "potentially obstructive limitation" is nothing more than gearing up your character when you hit a levelling milestone, which is what you should be doing anyway.

[PyurBlue]

Less people solely eligible for CT means less overall runs of CT versus other raids, which means less people-who-want-variety getting dragged down to fill the last few seats for yet another CT run.

Also, that "potentially obstructive limitation" is nothing more than gearing up your character when you hit a levelling milestone, which is what you should be doing anyway.

CT still remains the only raid players are directed to and required to complete. While this change may tip the scales slightly, the bias remains squarely focused on CT.

The leveling limitation could be also be a lot more severe than you're anticipating. The problem comes from XP increases and Road to X, if available. It's very easy to reach level 70 in ARR for instance. What happens to Alliance Roulette then? I don't know if this was considered or not. If it was, then OK it's not a problem, but if it was not considered, it's going to be an annoying change.

[TaleraRistain]

The leveling limitation could be also be a lot more severe than you're anticipating. The problem comes from XP increases and Road to X, if available. It's very easy to reach level 70 in ARR for instance. What happens to Alliance Roulette then? I don't know if this was considered or not. If it was, then OK it's not a problem, but if it was not considered, it's going to be an annoying change.

Yeah this is one of the things that concerns me and I hope we get more details. My alt on Dynamis has level 90 classes but I just did Sirensong with her in MSQ when it came out for Duty Support. So those 90 classes are stuck in the gear I have available to me right now. It was kind of a short slide but I think if they factor in the ilevel of the highest raid you have unlocked that should assure that people on Road to X servers don't get locked out of AR if they aren't caught up to the raid tier where their adventuring level is at.

[vetch]

... Why would a character that's already 20 to 40 levels over their current MSQ need to do Alliance Raid Roulettes?

[SieyaM]

CT still remains the only raid players are directed to and required to complete. While this change may tip the scales slightly, the bias remains squarely focused on CT.

The leveling limitation could be also be a lot more severe than you're anticipating. The problem comes from XP increases and Road to X, if available. It's very easy to reach level 70 in ARR for instance. What happens to Alliance Roulette then? I don't know if this was considered or not. If it was, then OK it's not a problem, but if it was not considered, it's going to be an annoying change.

If you're already level 70 and just finishing up ARR, you don't really need anymore routes to gain XP since you're way ahead of where you need to be anyway and will only be gaining more with everything you do progressing the MSQ. What happens to the alliance roulette then is that people who are queueing for other things because they are in different places in their own progression might actually get to run Void Ark or Ivalice without waiting hours for the queue to fill.

[Hiri-Hiri]

I personally am so happy about this, though I think I won't bother unlocking the Neir Raids on this char; they give me such a headache from all the white and flashes and stuff.

[Daeriion_Aeradiir]

An interesting, but welcome change. Considering the sheer amount of biases CT has going for it however, I suspect the majority of instance you'll see will still be CT, the numbers just work way too hard in its favor that ilvl cheesers were only a small part of the problem. I'm honestly more surprised they actually changed the coding on the roulette to allow dynamic ilvl requirements, when its evident the roulettes were coded to use hard-ilvl requirements before.

It's a welcome change nonetheless though. Sorta wish they went with giving the different alliance raids much higher exp to incentivize them better, since now we'll have a roulette that can give the same exp for a 15min faceroll experience or 40+min wipe/health sponge slog experience.

Considering how easy people were willing to jump ship back in the Praetorium vs Castrum dynamic, I have a feeling the meta for those players who want an easy run will be to just insta leave if its anything not faceroll or faceroll adjacent, go do something for 30mins then try and fish for a CT instance due to how the roulette is still super biased to CT.

[Gullis]

thats nice, Maybe ill start doing some alliance again. Will still be a lot of CT tho for obvious reasons

[TheNight]

Seems so. Whenever fixing this was brought up around here, a LOT of people would come out to defend their ILVL cheesing bullshit too, so I'm glad the devs fixed it and I'll have fun seeing those people in Orbonne Monastery.

Perhaps the ERP and Second Life crowd will be forced to play the game for once?

That would, however, require us to enforce a culture of vote dismissing deadweights.