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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    Seems so. Whenever fixing this was brought up around here, a LOT of people would come out to defend their ILVL cheesing bullshit too, so I'm glad the devs fixed it and I'll have fun seeing those people in Orbonne Monastery.
    Perhaps the ERP and Second Life crowd will be forced to play the game for once?

    That would, however, require us to enforce a culture of vote dismissing deadweights.
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  2. #52
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    Saphir Amariyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Less people solely eligible for CT means less overall runs of CT versus other raids, which means less people-who-want-variety getting dragged down to fill the last few seats for yet another CT run.

    Also, that "potentially obstructive limitation" is nothing more than gearing up your character when you hit a levelling milestone, which is what you should be doing anyway.
    CT still remains the only raid players are directed to and required to complete. While this change may tip the scales slightly, the bias remains squarely focused on CT.

    The leveling limitation could be also be a lot more severe than you're anticipating. The problem comes from XP increases and Road to X, if available. It's very easy to reach level 70 in ARR for instance. What happens to Alliance Roulette then? I don't know if this was considered or not. If it was, then OK it's not a problem, but if it was not considered, it's going to be an annoying change.
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    Last edited by PyurBlue; 07-31-2023 at 06:23 AM.

  3. #53
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    Discount Hrothgar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    If cheesing was done by this many people then a fix was sorely needed. A party of 24 can carry on even if some of the mud falls off.
    That's not what's being suggested. There's a There used to be a third-party plogon that told you what the roulette duty is before you accept the queue, so people using it would see one of the slog raids and just take a strike by declining, since you can do that 3 times before even getting a penalty.
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    Last edited by vetch; 07-31-2023 at 02:46 PM.

  4. #54
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Balmung
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    Why do I get this sinking feeling in my gut that says "even with the changes...you'll still get CT"?
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

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  5. #55
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    Kurotora Iga
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    Zodiark
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    I don't see the issue either if any you are litterally given a job set of armor each 10 levels after level 50... and everythign you need to fill in with can be be bought with peotic tomestones, it is a good thing they are doing here, it will make Alliance raid more popular thing as well.... and those sitting in queu for eg. the level 70 or 80 ones for long will have the wait time reduced as well.
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  6. #56
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    Eugene Tracewood
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    Why do I get this sinking feeling in my gut that says "even with the changes...you'll still get CT"?
    I think the workaround is someone will make an alt just for CT, keep it at 50 and create a premade party before queuing for alliance raid. The alt will probably AFK while the invitee plays. Once it hits level 60, delete and repeat.
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  7. #57
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    Percibel Theren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracewood View Post
    I think the workaround is someone will make an alt just for CT, keep it at 50 and create a premade party before queuing for alliance raid. The alt will probably AFK while the invitee plays. Once it hits level 60, delete and repeat.
    I mean, if people want to put that much effort into it, I think that's fair enough. It's certainly a lot more work than just taking off your gear before queuing up and I don't think most people will be willing to do it.
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  8. #58
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracewood View Post
    I think the workaround is someone will make an alt just for CT, keep it at 50 and create a premade party before queuing for alliance raid. The alt will probably AFK while the invitee plays. Once it hits level 60, delete and repeat.
    What one could theoretically do is not the same as what is otherwise pragmatic. This isn't really practical for 99% of people.
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  9. #59
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    Zanelle Solainteau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracewood View Post
    I think the workaround is someone will make an alt just for CT, keep it at 50 and create a premade party before queuing for alliance raid. The alt will probably AFK while the invitee plays. Once it hits level 60, delete and repeat.
    It would actually be less time consuming to learn how to play.
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    Lauren Zackson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracewood View Post
    I think the workaround is someone will make an alt just for CT, keep it at 50 and create a premade party before queuing for alliance raid. The alt will probably AFK while the invitee plays. Once it hits level 60, delete and repeat.
    Alternatively, people who only care about endgame raiding and nothing else will make alts that just won't have any other raids unlocked at all. If it turns out to JUST be an ilvl requirement, it won't be a problem at all for people who don't care about other raids and never unlocked them, so theyll meet their level's ilvl requirement, but still be put in CT because it's only one they have.
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