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    Quote Originally Posted by fulminating View Post
    Hey remember when upheaval did more damage when you were more damaged?
    (Original) Upheaval [Warrior, lv64] - "Deals an attack with 300 potency. Potency decreases as own HP decreases. Potency also affected by maximum HP-increasing effects."
    The first part you may recognize from old Spirit's Within. The second part was why Warriors could use Thrill of Battle as an (incredibly minor) offensive tool.

    Upheaval has only ever been on Warrior, at least in FFXIV. There have also been no effects since 1.x that deal increased damage as %HP decreases.
    The only other two instances of the ability name Upheaval appearing in FF games, as far as I could find, was also on Warrior in FFXI and Marauder in FF:SoP.

    So... not exactly a stolen ability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    words
    Yeah changed my mind halfway through the sentence and didn't fix it.
    also
    https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Revenge_Blast
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    Quote Originally Posted by fulminating View Post
    So you're saying the 4.0 Warrior ability, Uprising... was stolen from the joke job that wasn't released until 4.5?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    So you're saying the 4.0 Warrior ability, Uprising... was stolen from the joke job that wasn't released until 4.5?

    Spirits within and upheaval. (Stormblood)
    Spirits within: Delivers an attack with a potency of 300. Potency decreases as HP decreases.
    Upheaval: Delivers an attack with a potency of 300 Potency decreases as own HP decreases. Potency also affected by maximum HP-increasing effects granted to self.

    The latter is a better designed version of the same concept because it interacts with other parts of your kit and you have more flexibility with it.

    Calling anything a joke job when your main is listed as machinist is asking for trouble.
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