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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archeron View Post
    Who is this "everyone" that agreed with you? Little narcissitic to believe that. Take some tissues and wipe those tears away because your ranking in CC just got a little harder on your main job. What a tragedy.
    People who actually got to crystal and are actually decent at the game and are either;

    A: Not hardstuck in plat.

    B: Don't cry about "premades" in casual queue when people ask for a simple duo or trio party to be allowed.

    Also, I'm ranking up just fine on DRG/MCH. It's simply not as rewarding or fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    People who actually got to crystal and are actually decent at the game and are either;

    A: Not hardstuck in plat.

    B: Don't cry about "premades" in casual queue when people ask for a simple duo or trio party to be allowed.

    Also, I'm ranking up just fine on DRG/MCH. It's simply not as rewarding or fun.
    Oh are you still fuming that I don't agree with you on premades? Don't be a condescending jerk. Maybe people would be more inclined to listen to your point of view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archeron View Post
    Oh are you still fuming that I don't agree with you on premades? Don't be a condescending jerk. Maybe people would be more inclined to listen to your point of view.
    You wanna be the pot, or the kettle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elfidan View Post
    Data and experience. Your data is based on your opinion.
    His data was potency numbers. How is that an opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elfidan View Post
    People really want BRD to do everything but it's just a support. If you don't like support try one of the many other jobs which aren't support.
    A: Not a support job. The mode is supposed to be role agnostic.

    B: No one wants BRD to do everything, but considering from SE's own data source that BRD wasn't exactly dominating games and the top 100 in every season has practically no BRD's in them, its safe to say BRD was fine as it was and didn't need such a strong nerf.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elfidan View Post
    Typical that someone would be upset when something other players hate gets removed or adjusted. People were already claiming NIN was dead in CC on patch day over the longer limit timer. That didn't age very well either.
    I see NIN everywhere in FL. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw one in CC, and if I did...they went completely unnoticed with little impact in the match given how basically mediocre they are in CC now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    You wanna be the pot, or the kettle?
    Considering you seem to love throwing shade, I think you're the pot, and a pretty burnt one at that. But keep hiding behind your snarky comments, it's obviously working wonders for your social life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    You wanna be the pot, or the kettle?



    His data was potency numbers. How is that an opinion?
    The rock of his argument that BRD is too weak is that other jobs can 100 to 0 someone who doesn't interact with their game controls. Saying a DRG can do 63,250 while a BRD does 49,680 is pretty one dimensional when you have CC abilities to limit opposing interaction with the health pool. BRD is a master on confirming kills because it can rapidly fire off its damage compared to a DRG which has to go through various animations to do that damage and has no CC to help limit enemy recuperates and shields. It's like saying this car is really fast but that civic beats it at 0-60. So, the question of opinion here is that damage and damage in a set space of time are not the same. Treating them as such kind of kills the argument.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    A: Not a support job. The mode is supposed to be role agnostic.

    B: No one wants BRD to do everything, but considering from SE's own data source that BRD wasn't exactly dominating games and the top 100 in every season has practically no BRD's in them, its safe to say BRD was fine as it was and didn't need such a strong nerf.
    What precisely do you call a job that adds damage to other jobs while offering multiple crowd control effect? You really do. You want it to do huge damage but retain its other features. We need to move away from this design because it creates problems like NIN. Where you basically have a button for everything and every perceived nerf does nothing consequential.



    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    I see NIN everywhere in FL. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw one in CC, and if I did...they went completely unnoticed with little impact in the match given how basically mediocre they are in CC now.
    Maybe on Aether but they are still everywhere on Primal and they still swing a match. People who think that increasing a limit charge timer changes anything don't really understand how things work. Bunshin use to just be rolling all the time and that was busted as all get out. It means you don't have it almost every engage and that is a positive change, but it didn't nerf the job to the floor. Your over dramatic as usual.

    I'm sorry you're not happy with your favorite job at the moment but can we stop pretending our intentions are different than they in fact are?
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    If there was a downvote button I'd be pressing it.

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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfidan View Post
    The rock of his argument that BRD is too weak is that other jobs can 100 to 0 someone who doesn't interact with their game controls. Saying a DRG can do 63,250 while a BRD does 49,680 is pretty one dimensional when you have CC abilities to limit opposing interaction with the health pool. BRD is a master on confirming kills because it can rapidly fire off its damage compared to a DRG which has to go through various animations to do that damage and has no CC to help limit enemy recuperates and shields. It's like saying this car is really fast but that civic beats it at 0-60. So, the question of opinion here is that damage and damage in a set space of time are not the same. Treating them as such kind of kills the argument.
    DRG can do 50k within 2GCDs...

    Quote Originally Posted by Elfidan View Post
    What precisely do you call a job that adds damage to other jobs while offering multiple crowd control effect? You really do. You want it to do huge damage but retain its other features. We need to move away from this design because it creates problems like NIN. Where you basically have a button for everything and every perceived nerf does nothing consequential.
    No one ever asked brd to do "huge damage." The only thing I've ever really asked for is for the LB to be redesigned. Outside of that, their damage was fine before. It was really low damage with a small window for burst....burst of which was still weaker than nearly everyone else, but the silence allowed them to secure a kill if played right and now they actually do worse damage and have zero burst.
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    yep they got shafted in this patch dancer big damage
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