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    Aries Helle
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Celine_Aurora View Post
    The worst thing my old static could have done to "empower" me for my first Savage experience was telling me to practice on the P5S dummy before our first raid. I killed it handily because of course, went to raid with them feeling like I had already surpassed their expectations and got brutally beat down for three hours that made me so miserable I swore off the game entirely for a dozen days.

    If they asked me to spend that time to start practicing the fight in PF and try to catch with them up a little and get an idea of what raiding actually is in this game, I might not have felt like my only recourse was to leave them.

    Personally thois convinced me that as a first timer, these guys in the OP should not worry about testing their dps before having some decent prog down for the first fight, or at least do it concurrently. After all, dps only matters if you are trying to get a kill, yeah? And your rotation is relatively easy to fix when needed, compared to learning dances.

    Edited to add: Also how good you can keep your rotation up on a stationary target ends up being almost meaningless the first time you're trying that during a fight doing mechs.
    It almost sounds like they knew what was coming and tried to prepare you for it. But instead of being thankful for the tips you chose to let your insecurities win and dropped off. If they were being mean to you than by all accounts you should have left, but that's not what I'm getting from your post. I don't see your experience having been better by not doing the dummy, if anything, its would've been the same 3 hours, but worse.

    You don't learn and keep up your rotation in a dummy for the first time you try a fight. You do it so that when the fight is mastered people don't have to wait around for you to get good at it while hitting enrage every night. It's something you bring with you so that you can finish the fight without enraging after people went through the effort of doing the mechanics right.

    Hell, I've been raiding for years and anytime I try a new job I learn my rotation on a dummy. This isn't even a noob tip. It's a pro tip too. You can see others do it as well by looking at Jeeqbit's post.
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    Last edited by Ath192; 05-11-2023 at 11:24 PM.

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    Celine Aurora
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    It almost sounds like they knew what was coming and tried to prepare you for it. But instead of being thankful for the tips you chose to let your insecurities win and dropped off.
    That's like... The opposite of what I wrote.

    They gave me advice on keeping up my rotation that I did not need and they did not need (they were far from the kill too, progging Devour and trying to get consistently to Ruby 4 and 5) and did nothing to prepare me for what the fight actually demanded. They did not give me the advice that I would have given myself if I was in their shoes: before worrying about your dps, practice the fight and try to catch up to our progression point.

    Eventually, both the practice and the dummy are important, for sure. But killing the dummy did not prepare me for a good raiding experience with them, and what would have gotten me better prepared was not demanded.

    I'm not saying the dummy is useless or that I don't practice rotations, I am saying, it's not a priority for someone who is approaching Savage for the first time, like OP and their static.
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