Zepla about FFXIV Relic and Square Enix not taking any Risks

[ZephyrMenodora]

That's not really what's being done here, though?

We have an OP that's basically just going, "I'm glad to see that larger-reaching sections of the community are starting to talk about what are, to me, some of the game's increasingly obvious shortcomings. Here's one random example.

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Hence the "Nobody asked." Because the point wasn't one's opinion about streamers, but merely a comment on how criticism has been cycling, and its more recent topics (available content, use and framing of grinds, etc.).

I apologize for the delay - as being one of the seemingly few people who vocally enjoy the game, I tend to get so many quotes and responses to everything I type here that I simply ran out of my daily posts.

Your post did give me a bit of a chuckle, as that is exactly what he did. He posted Zepla's link, then used this as some sort of evidence that she agreed with his views about how "terrible" the game is. He actually used "terrible" three times in his OP. He then stated "Video game content creators are a barometer of the mood of the playerbase." He follows this up with putting my quote and all caps and changing what I said while pretending to quote me, claiming I refuse to listen to Zepla or some nonsense. This is pretty funny given the quote he changed started with "I like Zepla" meaning I do listen to her videos, and do engage with them. I commented on her video, and the funny thing is - the majority of her audience in the comments section actually like this expansion's approach to the relic weapons. So I guess Zepla's video wasn't even the barometer of her own audience. This is to be expected as she's mostly playing another game right now anyway. Something I know, because yes, I do engage with her content.

The OP can speak for himself. You've been here for an astonishing 10,673 posts. Certainly you've seen this poster and his behavior here given he has multiple threads (all negative) spamming throughout the top 5 to 7 pages of the forums here. He's an instigator and rude, and not the saccharin and polite poster you tried to make him out to be when you decided to rewrite his points. Instead, he rudely wrote "nobody asked" to be dismissive, and then ended his other response to me with "suck it!" This is not how you speak to another adult, or anyone really. On other forums like ESO's that has an active community team, this type of behavior would be moderated. Here I am happy to report that one of his threads I had reported was deleted, but his consistent rule violations according to rules on being polite and not making reptetive posts just goes unmoderated.

For now I'm just going to go back to blocking specific people who have no ability to articulate their own points without stooping to insults. Given this is a video game forum, nothing will be lost by not spending further time on such people.

[Gemina]

As mentioned before, they are both just clowns with microphones that mostly would do things like this, because the game does not go their degraded way of gameplay and both Zepla and that MrHappy person only cover a small small fraction of players opinions and whatever is in it...

I finally managed to get through most of this thread, and this is the take I agree with the most. Zepla and Mr. Happy combine to make two people, or roughly about .0002% of the entire playerbase. Zepla in particular, I cannot stand. Her content is poor not only for FFXIV, but as a content creator in general. But really what did it for her was when she went off on a two-year old temper tantrum about housing a few years back, which was just so cringe. Mr. Happy OTOH has very good content: Interesting topics, sticks to the subject, gives valid opinions when warranted, good PvE guides. My only issue with him is his face. Not that it's hideous or anything. This is something I generally dislike about FFXIV content creators because I want to see the content, not the mugs of the creators.

In short, it's going to take much more than them to get me to hop on the dog pile of expressing how crappy the game is or has become. I have my issues with it. Many of which are shared with the views on these forums. Some of these, but not restricted to are: healing, encounter design, glamour system, custom creator, gold saucer events, ilv bloat in duties, alliance raids, and lack of challenge in normal level duties.

A big reason why I come to the defense of the devs so often isn't because I have zero issues with the game, and think it's a perfect digital utopia, but rather because I respect them, their time, and their efforts. The impression I constantly get from many of the posters on this forum is a grand sense of entitlement for themselves, and a severe lack of appreciation for the work this dev team does. There are many posters here who I have engaged in arguments with whom I still respect and value their feedback. Then there are those who don't know how to debate in a constructive and civil manner, resorting to memes, unwarranted insults, and echoes to make their arguments.

For the relic in particular. I think for some players it is the straw that breaks the camels back. They've had it with disappointment after disappointment. I can sympathize with those feelings. But I also can see where the devs are coming from who have not been able to implement this content without ruffling feathers. They've tried many approaches, with the current tomestone steps being the latest. They can do no right with this content, and it is my belief that it is time to scrap it entirely come 7.0. Content like Deep Dungeons, Eureka and Bozja can survive on their own merit without throwing relic steps in to incentivize them. Relic weapons in the context of these great and powerful arms of the WoL does not fit in the progression style that FFXIV uses. The only time, and I do mean the only time this was viable was when all we had was ARR. As soon as HW came around, the concept of relics was destroyed.

That said, what I constantly do is find things about the game I enjoy and stick to those instead of focusing my energy on what I have no power to change. I also ration the content knowing how limited it is. I do this by finding replay value in the content I've cleared, and spending time doing things outside the game. Things that help give me a sense of purpose and accomplishment: exercising, tending to my house plants, time with family/friends, my job, tidiness in my living space. And yes, playing other games too. FFXIV has its issues, and it always will. It can never make everyone playing happy. But the players themselves have the power to find meaningful ways to spend their time online. That is what I implore.

[Kickwars]

Instead, he rudely wrote "nobody asked" to be dismissive

MAD MAD MAD

[ZephyrMenodora]

MAD MAD MAD

I'm not mad, but I'm not going to waste any additional time on people like you other than the next 10 seconds it takes to block you. Sorry! Find someone else to bicker with.

[Demolisher]

I'm not mad, but I'm not going to waste any additional time on people like you other than the next 10 seconds it takes to block you. Sorry! Find someone else to bicker with.

BLOCKED BLOCKED BLOCKED

But since you find insulting opinions to be "facts" - going on my block list too. Not the type of person I will engage with further now that you revealed that this is how you think.

Since MaxCarnage isn't aware, they are also in my block bin.

Starting now. Into the block bin you go.

Correct. I have that person ignored and only saw this as ignore doesn’t block quotes.

[Themarvin]

I finally managed to get through most of this thread, and this is the take I agree with the most. Zepla and Mr. Happy combine to make two people, or roughly about .0002% of the entire playerbase. Zepla in particular, I cannot stand. Her content is poor not only for FFXIV, but as a content creator in general. But really what did it for her was when she went off on a two-year old temper tantrum about housing a few years back, which was just so cringe. Mr. Happy OTOH has very good content: Interesting topics, sticks to the subject, gives valid opinions when warranted, good PvE guides. My only issue with him is his face. Not that it's hideous or anything. This is something I generally dislike about FFXIV content creators because I want to see the content, not the mugs of the creators.

In short, it's going to take much more than them to get me to hop on the dog pile of expressing how crappy the game is or has become. I have my issues with it. Many of which are shared with the views on these forums. Some of these, but not restricted to are: healing, encounter design, glamour system, custom creator, gold saucer events, ilv bloat in duties, alliance raids, and lack of challenge in normal level duties.
"""SNIP"".

They are both clowns, so is Meonie and others... much of their content creation especially if it is new has been datamined... and when their stuff is out you already had the patch notes from SE, so it is pointless content.

Also... they are NOT content creators of FFXIV, the SE Dev and writing team is.


Technically they are just craving for likes and views... and am like Leave Britney Alone kind of attention seeking.

Play the game live, do content live... and make it a one time happening instead, but they are not capable of that either.... and then there is the flawed how to do extremes, savage and whatever with outdates moves as well as inefficient.... get to the point show mechanics.. end of story, no one is there to watch a bad variant of the 3 stoges.

[TowaIsBestGirl]

For the relic in particular. I think for some players it is the straw that breaks the camels back. They've had it with disappointment after disappointment. I can sympathize with those feelings. But I also can see where the devs are coming from who have not been able to implement this content without ruffling feathers. They've tried many approaches, with the current tomestone steps being the latest. They can do no right with this content, and it is my belief that it is time to scrap it entirely come 7.0. Content like Deep Dungeons, Eureka and Bozja can survive on their own merit without throwing relic steps in to incentivize them. Relic weapons in the context of these great and powerful arms of the WoL does not fit in the progression style that FFXIV uses. The only time, and I do mean the only time this was viable was when all we had was ARR. As soon as HW came around, the concept of relics was destroyed.

This might well be one of the most relevant and well-thought out opinions I've seen posted here, and I thank you for saying it. If we're stooping to the level of rendering Relics tomestone weaponry when we already possess such things, maybe it is indeed time to ditch the idea entirely. I enjoyed the stories of Bozja and Eureka respectively, and I like to think I have faith that the devs in question could produce another one on the same level in the future if allocated the requisite resources.

Make it happen, Square!

[R041]

It's kinda funny watching the community basically turn on the only content creators they have left. Right now Twitch is just a bunch of night club DJs with 10-30 viewers, random players doing MSQ for views, and sometimes Xeno.

"Yeah, I never liked them anyway" - Too bad they the only hype generators you got..

Remember when everyone was excited we started getting content creators from WoW and other MMOs hyping us up, then they all just.. Disappeared?

Now you turn on the ones that have been here for years. Pretty messed up.

[ZephyrMenodora]

BLOCKED BLOCKED BLOCKED

What's one more?

[Kaurhz]

It's kinda funny watching the community basically turn on the only content creators they have left. Right now Twitch is just a bunch of night club DJs with 10-30 viewers, random players doing MSQ for views, and sometimes Xeno.

"Yeah, I never liked them anyway" - Too bad they the only hype generators you got..

Remember when everyone was excited we started getting content creators from WoW and other MMOs hyping us up, then they all just.. Disappeared?

Now you turn on the ones that have been here for years. Pretty messed up.

This implies that the same people are on all of those categories you've listed, and rather just not separate people and groups entirely.