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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonsutaMan View Post
    XIV was never HIM, WoW was though.....& if you are associated with HIM, you are cool by default.
    I'm very confused. Is "HIM" here supposed to be an acronym? I was even on the lookout for references to "the guy", "the man", "the big bad", etc., etc.... but there was nothing.

    Best guess so far:
    This guy... but as a metaphor?
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    Why listen to the opinions of content creators when you can just form your own opinion.

    Manderville relics are lazy and unsatisfying to obtain. There is no overarching storyline to tie them to the expansion, there is no actual 'content' based on them, leaving you to just repeat the same dungeons/raids you have already been doing on repeat all expansion and are sick to death of.

    Relics, in the past, were used as a way to keep player retention up and fill the empty overworld with players doing activities to progress their characters, or offer alternative zones where communities were built to complete the content over the lifespan of an expansion.
    They would have become a 'tome step' after the expansion ends anyway, the same as every other relic in the game. There was no need to just make that 'fast track' step the only way to obtain them ON PATCH.

    Square Enix needs to start taking risks with content, People need to remember that content designed for the average and above player, becomes 'casual content' in the next expansion for anyone not willing to challenge themselves when it is current.

    How many 'casual' players run old extreme fights unsynced and call it content?
    How many 'casual' players run old raids unsynced for glamour?
    Now how many of those 'casual' players even do current expansion content?

    None of that content would exist if it wasn't first made for the average or above player, It is that 'harder' and 'more grindy' content that backfills the game and has so much replayability later in the games lifespan.
    Right now, Endwalker is slowly moving towards the end of it's lifespan, and the content left behind for 'casual players' to soak up is basically zero.
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    Shikaree Sinhunter
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    I have my own opinions for Endwalker. It turned out to be my favorite for its message (for just the main story end arc). My Dad passed away a few weeks before it released on early access, so I was going through a rather rough time leading up to it. And it helped me through moreso because my WOL is essentially a reflection of my own person irl. So it did hit me the hardest after the ending. Everything that came after 6.0 (6.1 and so on) bored the crap out of me lmao. I'm glad I finished XVI and Diablo IV this year-- but I went back to XI after. There's not much for me to do till savage next release in 7.0 honestly (had some really bumpy runs with a lot of prog groups and gave up because I was tired of bad party finders and groups who cannot communicate well across all the DCs in NA). My attachment to the game has gone stale though with all the content we've received thus far since the start of the expansion. I'm hoping 7.0 has something better in store. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo View Post
    I feel like we're both operating in good faith but are probably misunderstanding each other. To be clear, I don't think that Zepla's criticisms should be ignored. Rather, I think that whether or not a player enjoys any game — especially one with as much complexity and variety as FF14 — is a highly subjective experience. Someone who's here for the hardcore raiding is going to naturally have a different experience than someone who's here for crafting. Someone who plays for just a few hours on the weekend is going to have a different experience than someone who puts in several hours daily. These diverse players have different wants and needs, and these provide valuable context that relates to how satisfied they will be with the game or any given patch. In particular, burnout can often make a defining difference between enjoying something and hating it; I've seen it so many times, and experienced it as well.

    So what I'm trying to suggest is that when people hear Zepla's criticisms of the game, they should also consider the context within which she makes her critique. Do not dismiss her! Just be thoughtful. That's really all I wanted to say.
    Why are you guys debating about Zepla when it's a sentiment shared by MULTIPLE content creators, not just Zepla. Seems like she's just easier to attack so people choose that lmao

    @ me when you guys try to explain why MrHappy should be ignored too. Oh wait sorry, not "ignore", just put into context so that it's super convenient to dismiss, but don't actually explicitly dismiss guys! Because that's not thoughtful. Just hint at dismissing. Wink wink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
    Why are you guys debating about Zepla when it's a sentiment shared by MULTIPLE content creators, not just Zepla. Seems like she's just easier to attack so people choose that lmao
    because, you know, Zepla is the topic of this very thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
    @ me
    which one?
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    Last edited by Aword3213; 07-21-2023 at 01:56 AM.

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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Zepla gained my respect back when she was the only influencer to actually have the balls to go off script and push Yoshida about the steadily growing unrest over endgame healing. Perhaps it was a byproduct of the impending burnout but she seemed much more willing to burn her chances of getting future interviews than Mr Happy who was as spineless as ever at the time.
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    ~ WHM / badSCH / Snob ~ http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/871132/ ~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Zepla gained my respect back when she was the only influencer to actually have the balls to go off script and push Yoshida about the steadily growing unrest over endgame healing. Perhaps it was a byproduct of the impending burnout but she seemed much more willing to burn her chances of getting future interviews than Mr Happy who was as spineless as ever at the time.

    A friend of mine never did like the changes made to WHM, various reasons behind it from what I understood.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    As much as I still whine about it I’ve honestly given up any hope for any change to healers though I respect the hell out of Zepla for jeopardising her position to basically say “yo what the hell”

    As of now I’m basically of the opinion that when the job design finally scares off the last of the savage healers squares response will be to use that as an excuse to dump savage rather than attempting to fix healers
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    If I recall, not a single streamer / influencer was invited to Fanfest this time which surprised me. It makes me wonder what the marketing department is up to or if they know that they do not have much substance to offer and are trying to manage the situation. It would make sense as I have not really seen much hype for the NA Fanfest. We will know in a week but I am concerned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    If I recall, not a single streamer / influencer was invited to Fanfest this time which surprised me. It makes me wonder what the marketing department is up to or if they know that they do not have much substance to offer and are trying to manage the situation. It would make sense as I have not really seen much hype for the NA Fanfest. We will know in a week but I am concerned.
    I'm really curious to see how the fan fest goes, there's a a hefty disconnect that seems to building with the devs and it will be interesting to see if this continues at the fanfest or if they are going to try and get a handle on the cracks that seem to be building.
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