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    Quote Originally Posted by hunkygladiator View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gocvyuEUtK0

    Love it when people are finally waking up to Endwalker being a terrible expansion, and not just a terrible expansion but the continuation of a terrible design ethos in this game starting from Stormblood.

    Also, Bozja had a far better story than EW Relic lol, so it's not even decent as a "story-based" relic.
    Truth is the players are also disliking it. Here is an extrapolation from the Steam Player base.

    It is true that FFXIV has never been more popular than now, however, if we look at trends this particular expansion has a much more violent quit rate than any that comes before it. So while people heard good things about XIV and trying, they are not liking it at the same rate people have in previous expansions. In turn I feel previous expansions have done a much better job of retaining players.

    the lines represent the retention rate over a period of 12 months after an expansion releases.

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    Last edited by Ath192; 05-06-2023 at 02:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post

    So the current player count almost equals the max player count of some expansions (on steam) and yet the players are disliking it because the player spike is higher for Endwalker? So hypothetically, if steam count hit 10,000,000 and then dropped to 1,000,000, that would be a massive drop, would you still say that the drop is all that matters?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    So the current player count almost equals the max player count of some expansions (on steam) and yet the players are disliking it because the player spike is higher for Endwalker? So hypothetically, if steam count hit 10,000,000 and then dropped to 1,000,000, that would be a massive drop, would you still say that the drop is all that matters?
    That is what remains to be seen. We do not know if 7.0 will exceed the population of EW which was riding high on huge PR and passive marketing from the WOW Exodus, and so that would mean for the first time the game did not grow. I surely hope we didn't peak at end of SHB and beginning of EW.

    But it is clear more people are quitting the game than ever as well. The only point im making is that the expansion itself did not retain as many players from the initial release as the previous ones did from a percentage perspective.
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    I am sorry but... who is Zepla? I don't mean this as "Who the hell is she to speak for the community", I am legitimately asking, I never heard of the name before so I don't know why she'd be relevant.
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    It's like everyone has completely forgotten that games not named Final Fantasy 14 even exist. Instead of asking for infinite content here, which isn't even possible, play a different game while you wait for more content here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adeacia View Post
    It's like everyone has completely forgotten that games not named Final Fantasy 14 even exist. Instead of asking for infinite content here, which isn't even possible, play a different game while you wait for more content here.
    thank you for the amazing take, I'll take the 3 days of content that FFXIV offers (if i'm slow and play about an hour a day) and then move on to another game for the next 4 to 4.5 months, what a great recipe you have, actual genius

    what could go wrong I wonder
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    thank you for the amazing take, I'll take the 3 days of content that FFXIV offers (if i'm slow and play about an hour a day) and then move on to another game for the next 4 to 4.5 months, what a great recipe you have, actual genius

    what could go wrong I wonder
    I wouldn't mind if you did this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I wouldn't mind if you did this.
    Oh no my poor feelings I am so hurt, the Zephyr Menodora told me he'd like me to quit

    oh nyo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Oh no my poor feelings I am so hurt, the Zephyr Menodora told me he'd like me to quit

    oh nyo
    Don't worry, I know you won't.
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    Let's not forget that when the expansion launched there were issues with...basic mathematics. Summoners losing dps during Phoenix phase, one of WHM's spells upgrading into a damage downgrade, etc.

    FFXVI better be worth everything that FFXIV players have gone through.
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    Авейонд-сны


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