Length MSQ from all the expansions - it is getting insane

[VelKallor]

WoW never had a great story

WOTLK, Pandaria, Legion would like a word with you.

[Shinkuno]

WOTLK, Pandaria, Legion would like a word with you.

WOTLK where Arthas was memes as a saturday morning cartoon villain, and most of it was just "dae wc3 tft?"

Pandaria was carried by the zone stories, the overarching story was mid

Legion was BC 2.0 with the same bullshit asspulls

Also note that not great != bad

WoWs story is serviceable and can be enjoyed, but i wouldnt call it a great story

[Myrany]

WOTLK, Pandaria, Legion would like a word with you.

Vel you and I both did loremaster (Though I did it before the cataclysm and you did it after) as such you and I saw more of the story than the average player. We are going to have a different view on the story as we saw far more of it.

[VelKallor]

Vel you and I both did loremaster (Though I did it before the cataclysm and you did it after) as such you and I saw more of the story than the average player. We are going to have a different view on the story as we saw far more of it.

We agree on this.

In much the same way that Ive done a lot of the sidequests as well as all the MSQ. The story was there, Pandaria's was one of the darkest I had ever seen. The scenes with the Pandaren wife who allowed the ugliness and horror of war pervert her into a Sha-possessed demon was one I will never forget.

"Pandas are all about funny light hearted morons" etc was so far off the mark it got disgusting.

We came to Pandaria, what we left behind was sickness, death, misery, destruction. There WAS an enemy in Pandaria. US. We were the enemy.

....to quote a member of the Grey Council

"If there is a doom on this place it is because you brought it here"

As far as the novels and books are concerned, THAT is again ANOTHER Blizzard failure, if you cant, or wont put it into the game, it is idiocy to expect people to shell out more for a plethora of books with lore and content the devs were too f.ing lazy to put into the damned game. Dont get me started on the rancid mess that was WOD...FF 14 manages to put all its story into the game without asking the customer to pay more $$$$ to understand what the hell is going on...and why.

This is what I despised about WOW now, its all about short term content, the actual legacy of the game be damned.

Legion was brilliant...BFA by comparison was exchanging a plate of well cooked pasta for a five day old decaying, regurgitated, half digested fish.

[Denji]

WOTLK, Pandaria, Legion would like a word with you.

is this a late april fools joke

[Hurlstone]

WOTLK, Pandaria, Legion would like a word with you.

To me, WoW always had the potential for great story telling but I never really got the feeling they cared much about their lore. Like playing Cataclysm as a Alliance member was very a shame with most zones being either dull or painful parodies. Most of the big character moments they keep for novels and outside media, at least when I was playing. Now there is nothing wrong with having outside media helping to enhance the lore (I think FFXIV should do this actually. I would gladly read a novel or two explaining how the Ancients lived or what the Scions got up to during their years in the First) but it makes playing through quests feel rather hollow.

I do think Pandaria was the best in this regard, mostly because it wasn't a ‘take on old RTS Warcraft villain’ x3 plot and actually tried new things. I hear Legion was good, but have not played since Warlords so cannot really comment on stuff beyond that.