Why is endgame loot capped?

[MementoKoishi]

I replay through content here frequently because I enjoy it.

Did you ask ChatGPT to write this for you? You use anecdotal evidence in your first sentence, "It's ok because I replay it".

Not to mention F2P doesn't mean they're not making money.

When did I say LoL doesn't make money? I simply stated that it has more replay value while being f2p.

Are you're trying to narrowly define what makes something a MMORPG?

Strawman argument, my original comment stated that ffxiv could be a single player game and almost nothing would change. I even wrote a bit further down that people forget it's supposed to be a mmorpg. Is it wrong to state that you can clear the MSQ up to Endwalker solo? Why is Multiplayer Interaction optional in a mmorpg?

Players would absolutely notice the difference if SE converted it into a single player game because all those others they're used to seeing around would disappear.

True, the majority of the experience would still be the same, though. Only optional content like Raids would be affected (Not counting Role-playing as it requires multiplayer by nature). We can say co-op game instead to make it more accurate.

Criticism is fine when it is based around what the game offers instead of what you think it should be offering, and when it is constructive in nature. "This game sucks!" isn't useful as criticism. "There's no content!" isn't even criticism, it's objectively false.

Never said the game sucked, another strawman, I wouldn't be here if I didn't like the game, I'm just pessimistic about the road the devs are taking. As for the "There's no content!" yes, it is objectively false, the same way 1 of something is more than 0 of something.

But what you might want to do is add up how many hours you play a month

I play 3-6 hours every week just reclearing or doing old savage for glam with my static. I used to play 3-4 hours every day when I started, but I don't any more because almost all my friends unsubbed due to content drought, so my only activity left is raiding and crafting on patch days. Compared to other games, yeah, the price/hour ratio is rather high. My original complaint and why I posted in this specific thread was about the gear cap, it's there to timegate progression, but it feels terrible. Before I had a static, I lost the weekly roll 4 times in a row. Do you know how it feels progging and not getting rewarded for it? I agree for the first weeks to cap it, but why continue so months after? Everyone has already cleared p8s, why can't I just farm gear for my other classes? Also, what about people who can't play a specific week, they lose the book and gear that week, you can't catch up to others, and you lose your motivation to even try, last raid tier this happened to me and I just said "I'll wait for next tier to bother" and I actually quit the game until abyssos released.

[Raven2014]

Did you ask ChatGPT to write this for you? You use anecdotal evidence in your first sentence, "It's ok because I replay it".

You know ... the funny part of this argument is that the side of the people who like the game never have trouble accept that fact that it's not for everyone. That's why we don't say you're lying for not liking it, that's why we don't say you have to like, we even say it's ok for you to go and find a game you like.

Yet for some reason, people like you just seem can never accept the simple fact "people just like the game, it's not that deep". So it's always accompanied by some sort of gaslighting because ... well, if you don't like it, it must be impossible for anyone to like it so every person say they like it must be pretending and faking it?

[GTK0HLK]

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Only Replying to the part where its only a MMO if it's Multi-player only..,

There have been Solo Players alot in MMOs since time memorial.., cause when those you associate with are gone, all you got is yourself. until they log in.

And SE only made it Solo-Able.., cause they knew the stigma The idea that it's a MMO had to any not MP game FF fan base had.

So they laid bait, and once they've bit, and made friends, joined a community.
They'll partake in the MMO segment of the RPGMMO and do so..,

[Though not all cooked perfectly.., Hence why those in certain Circles can help but worry/be done with it. if SE doesn't implement things right the next patch. -with their other half-)

in the end, some points brought up, just don't fit the narrative they are shipped along with.

Just like Hrothgars, Solo-able MSQ was meant to draw in new players..,
Not go against the MMO parts of the XIV whole.
Which many dont see in the correct angle to see it fully.

[MementoKoishi]

it must be impossible for anyone to like it so every person say they like it must be pretending and faking it?

I can recognize forced positivity when I see it. People who actually love and like something will notice when it starts becoming bad and in frustration speak up, so it won't continue taking the wrong road. Ffxiv is in a weird state, it has an extremely loyal fanbase that will defend it to death, even if it means ignoring everything negative about it. "There's nothing wrong with ffxiv". Is that really true? Can you say that with your hand on your heart? If so, then I'll take your word for it, maybe I'm just delusional at the end of the day. Furthermore, the other side, my side in this case, doesn't hate the game. I like this game, and that's why I'm extremely upset that it starts going downhill.

[Raven2014]

I can recognize forced positivity when I see it.

Aka I will only see things that I want to see. Things I don't understand must be heresy.

"There's nothing wrong with ffxiv". Is that really true?

No, and almost no one ever saying that. Feel free to query some of the most ardent defenders of the game you had talked to, and most of them can go back and requote some other post where they had made suggestion or pointing out issue with the game.

The last time someone accused me of whiteknight the game never said anything negative of the game, he even promised that if I can show proof that I had ever have something I'm not happy with the game he will change his opinion. Well, after I provided with said proof, take a guess did he keep his words? Nope, he just threw a tantrum to deflect the point instead of owning to his word. The whole "There's nothing wrong with FFXIV" has always been just a conjure and projection from people like you to create a fake talking point.

[SaltyDaddy]

Because it is endgame loot.

And no, Criterion and Alliance should not give gear equivalent to savage raids cause that would throw off the balance of those raids. Gear progression is a essential part of raiding and throwing that balance off by giving you more choices to get the same level of gear would temper with that.

I am casual too btw. so this is no casual shaming but seriously there is no need for a casual player to have gear equivalent to savage raid gear anyways. You can get easily 630 gear for example which is close to the savage gear itemlevel and for what do you even need it anyways? To better perform in braindead low level dungeons? Your gear won't matter anyways when the next patch hits so there is literally no reason for you to progress beyond what we have now for casuals anyways.

There are so many ways to get gear, we don't need even more or easier ways.

If you are casual, then you are not gonna clear Criteon and when Alliance releases, nobody cares about gear anymore. As a raider, Im all for casual content to give savage ilvl gear. I want to have more option to min max best DPS option after those 4 months already spent gearing 2 characters. Alliance raid isnt even worth a damn second of our time to enter it, except glamour, and not every raider cares about glamour. It would only make game better if it would be savage ilvl, as even raiders would have reason to enter it.

So if you are casual player, I dont think anybody cares about your opinion about end game rewards. Just sain.

[DixieBellOCE]

Because it is endgame loot.

And no, Criterion and Alliance should not give gear equivalent to savage raids cause that would throw off the balance of those raids. Gear progression is a essential part of raiding and throwing that balance off by giving you more choices to get the same level of gear would temper with that.

I am casual too btw. so this is no casual shaming but seriously there is no need for a casual player to have gear equivalent to savage raid gear anyways. You can get easily 630 gear for example which is close to the savage gear itemlevel and for what do you even need it anyways? To better perform in braindead low level dungeons? Your gear won't matter anyways when the next patch hits so there is literally no reason for you to progress beyond what we have now for casuals anyways.

There are so many ways to get gear, we don't need even more or easier ways.

Criterion comes out 8 weeks after a raid tier.
Alliance raid comes out FOUR MONTHS after the raid tier.

If you care about savage, you would have cleared and already have the gear that matters.

Having the catch up patches drop equivalent gear is not going to affect the raid tier at all, as the hardcore players are done by the time the secondary content drops.

[SaltyDaddy]

Criterion comes out 8 weeks after a raid tier

Not to mention you need to be BiS to do Criterion Savage

[DixieBellOCE]

Weekly lockouts are common in nearly every MMO... This game just has loot restrictions instead of straight up locking you out of the fight.

Other games also have alternative gearing methods outside of weekly lockouts.

I only started playing WoW a week ago, and i already love the freedom of being able to go down whatever path i choose to obtain gear equal, and sometimes better, than the raid gear offered.

This is what FF is missing, alternative methods that keep you playing the game outside of your weekly reclear night.

Not everyone cares about minions/mounts/achievements, many people play because the combat feels good, and Square should double down and release more combat content, it is a combat based MMO after all.

[SaltyDaddy]

Not everyone cares about minions/mounts/achievements, many people play because the combat feels good, and Square should double down and release more combat content, it is a combat based MMO after all.

New Depp Dungeon eureka bossess are pretty cool tbh. I like them. But the boredom of getting to them thru all those boring floors make it kinda meh.