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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    I replay through content here frequently because I enjoy it.
    Did you ask ChatGPT to write this for you? You use anecdotal evidence in your first sentence, "It's ok because I replay it".

    Not to mention F2P doesn't mean they're not making money.
    When did I say LoL doesn't make money? I simply stated that it has more replay value while being f2p.

    Are you're trying to narrowly define what makes something a MMORPG?
    Strawman argument, my original comment stated that ffxiv could be a single player game and almost nothing would change. I even wrote a bit further down that people forget it's supposed to be a mmorpg. Is it wrong to state that you can clear the MSQ up to Endwalker solo? Why is Multiplayer Interaction optional in a mmorpg?

    Players would absolutely notice the difference if SE converted it into a single player game because all those others they're used to seeing around would disappear.
    True, the majority of the experience would still be the same, though. Only optional content like Raids would be affected (Not counting Role-playing as it requires multiplayer by nature). We can say co-op game instead to make it more accurate.

    Criticism is fine when it is based around what the game offers instead of what you think it should be offering, and when it is constructive in nature. "This game sucks!" isn't useful as criticism. "There's no content!" isn't even criticism, it's objectively false.
    Never said the game sucked, another strawman, I wouldn't be here if I didn't like the game, I'm just pessimistic about the road the devs are taking. As for the "There's no content!" yes, it is objectively false, the same way 1 of something is more than 0 of something.

    But what you might want to do is add up how many hours you play a month
    I play 3-6 hours every week just reclearing or doing old savage for glam with my static. I used to play 3-4 hours every day when I started, but I don't any more because almost all my friends unsubbed due to content drought, so my only activity left is raiding and crafting on patch days. Compared to other games, yeah, the price/hour ratio is rather high. My original complaint and why I posted in this specific thread was about the gear cap, it's there to timegate progression, but it feels terrible. Before I had a static, I lost the weekly roll 4 times in a row. Do you know how it feels progging and not getting rewarded for it? I agree for the first weeks to cap it, but why continue so months after? Everyone has already cleared p8s, why can't I just farm gear for my other classes? Also, what about people who can't play a specific week, they lose the book and gear that week, you can't catch up to others, and you lose your motivation to even try, last raid tier this happened to me and I just said "I'll wait for next tier to bother" and I actually quit the game until abyssos released.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MementoKoishi View Post
    Did you ask ChatGPT to write this for you? You use anecdotal evidence in your first sentence, "It's ok because I replay it".
    You know ... the funny part of this argument is that the side of the people who like the game never have trouble accept that fact that it's not for everyone. That's why we don't say you're lying for not liking it, that's why we don't say you have to like, we even say it's ok for you to go and find a game you like.

    Yet for some reason, people like you just seem can never accept the simple fact "people just like the game, it's not that deep". So it's always accompanied by some sort of gaslighting because ... well, if you don't like it, it must be impossible for anyone to like it so every person say they like it must be pretending and faking it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    it must be impossible for anyone to like it so every person say they like it must be pretending and faking it?
    I can recognize forced positivity when I see it. People who actually love and like something will notice when it starts becoming bad and in frustration speak up, so it won't continue taking the wrong road. Ffxiv is in a weird state, it has an extremely loyal fanbase that will defend it to death, even if it means ignoring everything negative about it. "There's nothing wrong with ffxiv". Is that really true? Can you say that with your hand on your heart? If so, then I'll take your word for it, maybe I'm just delusional at the end of the day. Furthermore, the other side, my side in this case, doesn't hate the game. I like this game, and that's why I'm extremely upset that it starts going downhill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MementoKoishi View Post
    I can recognize forced positivity when I see it.
    Aka I will only see things that I want to see. Things I don't understand must be heresy.

    "There's nothing wrong with ffxiv". Is that really true?
    No, and almost no one ever saying that. Feel free to query some of the most ardent defenders of the game you had talked to, and most of them can go back and requote some other post where they had made suggestion or pointing out issue with the game.

    The last time someone accused me of whiteknight the game never said anything negative of the game, he even promised that if I can show proof that I had ever have something I'm not happy with the game he will change his opinion. Well, after I provided with said proof, take a guess did he keep his words? Nope, he just threw a tantrum to deflect the point instead of owning to his word. The whole "There's nothing wrong with FFXIV" has always been just a conjure and projection from people like you to create a fake talking point.
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