Paired Threads: What would it take to make Heaker kits "complex/interesting"?

[ty_taurus]

Well it certainly sounds like you're trying to stir the pot. But let's stop dancing around the fire and just be upfront. You think that jobs are fine as-is because most people are content with them, and change is not required. My argument and the argument that many have made elsewhere is that reworking jobs like the healers, or SMN, or other hot topic jobs to appeal to the people who used to play them would either be well received or neutrally received by the vast bulk of players that play them currently, because that's just how gamers are. Unless you break the car, the mass will drive it regardless of its quality.

You are the odd one out. You think that's wrong, and what we want would destroy the game for everyone else. No one agrees with you here. At all. No amount of you yelling until you're blue in the face is going to change that. So if you're determined to change everyone's mind, then prove your point.

Gather information from a strong sample size of players on healers and present that information to the court. Ask the following questions:

1. Are you satisfied with the healers currently? If not, why?
2. Do you believe the healers could be better? If so, what would make them better?
3. Would you stop playing healer if the healers received a few more offensive spells?

I would bet money you will, by in large, receive responses similar to the following to questions 1 and 3 (of the people that enjoy healing as it is):

1. Yeah, I like playing as a healer.
3. No, I'd still enjoy playing healer/Depends on what gets added, but probably.

Question 2, you'll probably get a million different ideas, probably more specific ideas such as more spells to use lilies on, making AST cards less confusing, more things that interact with Kardia or Eukrasia, etc.

If you come back with something like "I shouldn't have to do that." Then I genuinely have no idea why you continue to parade your opinion as gospel, because no one believes or agrees with you. I don't understand what you think you're going to achieve without proving your point to the people who vehemently fight you.