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I think that's a super fair take. WoW itself is designed in a way to keep you busy with it's most basic mechanics, where XIV doesn't push that on you at all. So depending on the player it can feel better or worse when you're out of patch cycle content.

What's really funny is how all of the WoW type complaints started happening with XIV when everyone left WoW and migrated to this game. Would be really interesting if someone could pull forum data and correlate complaints about savage, ultimates, and high-end raiding content with the WoW exodus. I'd expect there's some kind of statistically significant correlation.

XIV's never been about having max. ilvl for end game content. It's always been accessible to a wide range of skillsets and players, but there's been such an emphasis on that stuff in the forums ever since ShB/EW.

Wat, I mean it's accessible in general like being able to do most content with purchased gear. But you're still raiding and trying to get BiS.

Also super accessibility was not so true with ARR-HW. And these discussions about homogenization and simplification have been going back since 4.0. Nothing's changed there.

I would say the discussions may have gotten more aggressive because the homogenization has gotten even deeper these past 4 years especially, and that's mostly coming from XIV players. If I see anyone arguing otherwise, it's usually newer players that quit WoW that are defending the watered down systems in comparison to how WoW is the extreme opposite.

I wish we'd learn from each other and take what WoW does right, and what XIV does right. But we can only really see black and white.

You kinda sound like you're from the exodus, but I could be wrong. Or at least from Shadowbringers. lol