Change/Remove Lalafell "Lifter"...

[VoidsentStatus]

That sounds like great advice to me. NSFW lalafell is disgusting. They have toddler like bodies what the hell possesses people to make nsfw with them? Ostracising creepy weirdos is normal and I hope it continues, lala nsfw enjoyers can stay in exile where they belong thanks. I don't want anything to do with people like that at all.

Want to know what's funny about that? That you should probably uninstall the game in that case since it has nsfw references all over of lalafell being in nsfw situations. Dungeon of lalafell being sex victims, lalafell engaging in sex gossip, bragging about sex body counts, fantasizing and or being in romantic relationships with non-lalafell, oh and the official lore encyclopedia has a bit about one of the main villain characters of ShB that's a lalafell being head over heels wanting "to be seen as a real woman" by another person in the group sexually.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Want to know what's funny about that? That you should probably uninstall the game in that case since it has nsfw references all over of lalafell being in nsfw situations. Dungeon of lalafell being sex victims, lalafell engaging in sex gossip, bragging about sex body counts, fantasizing and or being in romantic relationships with non-lalafell, oh and the official lore encyclopedia has a bit about one of the main villain characters of ShB that's a lalafell being head over heels wanting "to be seen as a real woman" by another person in the group sexually.

We get it, you enjoy lala nsfw and you are mad you got booted out the RP communities you were in. You're not entitled to be in any community. If they don't want you around, they don't have to have you around. If a group want to reject lalafells entirely for any reason they can. Find another group to RP with.

[Xeknos]

We get it, you enjoy lala nsfw and you are mad you got booted out the RP communities you were in. You're not entitled to be in any community. If they don't want you around, they don't have to have you around. If a group want to reject lalafells entirely for any reason they can. Find another group to RP with.

This. The problem with the person this comment is directed to is that they pretty clearly got called out and banned/rejected for doing weird pedo shit. Almost every post of theirs in this topic seems more like trying to re-litigate their rejection instead of contributing something relevant.

This... isn't ok. I'll apologize for the harsh words I used with you in earlier comments, because before I say what I'm about to say, the last thing I want is to be a part of the problem.

Final Fantasy XIV means a lot to me. I've been a Final Fantasy fan for many years, and joining the FFXIV community was actually one of the best decisions I've made. I've met some really great people, and had some really great experiences. Not to mention escaping into the world of FFXIV was sometimes a much needed distraction for a lot of the absolutely horrendous shit that was happening in my actual life.

HOWEVER;

If it is getting to the point where you are valuing the community/RP/whateverthefuck more than your actual needs, that is unhealthy. As an avid MMO player, I've seen too many people fall into a state where nothing else mattered, and the lines between problems that only existed in-game, and problems that existed in real life were extremely blurred, and people ended up getting hurt. Sometimes physically.

I'm not saying that you should put up with harassment, or that you shouldn't take a stand against it. People who are going great lengths to harass and harm (especially if it's leaking to IRL) should absolutely be held accountable. What I am saying is that your mental health and sanity should ALWAYS take precedence over anything else. Including this game. Including the community. Including the RP world. Including the venue community. With all due respect, based on some of your comments, it really feels like those lines are being blurred with you as well.

Which brings us back to the original topic, the chair. In the grand scheme of things, is it really worth all of this trouble? If people were going to be assholes to Lalafells, they were going to do it regardless of the chair's existence. The chair isn't the issue here.

Also this. Trying to substitute a game for your actual RL needs never ends well. I remember a friend of mine back in high school focused on EverQuest to the detriment of all else. He had to repeat his senior year. I tried doing the same thing in WoW several years later and it only made my mental health worse. Relying on an MMO instead of getting the proper help you need is *not* healthy.

[VoidsentStatus]

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Happy this post is partially on subject so I can respond to the other section.

1) I wasn't kicked out of anything. If you paid attention instead of skimming, I was on Aether, and the discords I mentioned were on Crystal, that I was in for research but didn't actually engage with because that wasn't my home. It was an example of how someone could take an event from one data center and share it to another without context and cause problems. The only Aether venue that actually removed me had a venue owner that got flack afterward when they made it public at my request that they had a policy of banning people from their venue off of accusations alone, and you'd have to prove yourself innocent after. I even had them apologize to me afterward in DM's when I showed them proof they banned me for no reason. I left because I knew 4+ owners on Aether that knew about malicious things in the community and they wanted to look away and did not care.

2) I HATE LALAFELL NSFW. *GRABS YOUR EAR, AND YANKS YOU CLOSE TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN HEAR ME* WHAT PART OF RESPECT DO PEOPLE MISS WHEN I'M SPEAKING. If I wanted to call out anything I thought was gross, I'd be going to every makeup mod artist on twitter and telling them that splashing a rainbow on their face is gross. But I know how to keep my mouth shut because my personal taste/opinion isn't important because at the end of the day, no matter how loud I could bark about it, they'd still exist with a large market of interest, same as lalafell. You speaking your opinion doesn't manifest any meaningful results besides harassment.

3) No, they cannot exclude people for any reason. In private settings, yes, but in public, no. Not from communities.
"Expressions that attempt to unilaterally exclude someone from the game or content/community, etc."
(Except when in accordance with rules set by an administrator such as a Free Company Master)

Outside of the unrealism of having to teach conversation tricks/corners to wall people into a violation to every random lalafell in the community, it's off-game exclusion that often I have a problem with. Most venues are actually easy to get banned once you know the tricks because they're rude and think they can ban anyone for any reason out of their venue and that's not the case. You need a reason for it, and it can't be just any reason such as one of the examples given: ""Don't join if your equipment is that bad/such a low item level." That isn't allowed. But most, will try to argue and end breaking "Expressions that unilaterally reject another person's opinion." because they don't know how to debate and be understanding of other people. They want to think their word is God when Square wants people to be understanding and have healthy conversations.

[Bunnycake]

Happy this post is partially on subject so I can respond to the other section.

1) I wasn't kicked out of anything. If you paid attention instead of skimming, I was on Aether, and the discords I mentioned were on Crystal, that I was in for research but didn't actually engage with because that wasn't my home. It was an example of how someone could take an event from one data center and share it to another without context and cause problems. The only Aether venue that actually removed me had a venue owner that got flack afterward when they made it public at my request that they had a policy of banning people from their venue off of accusations alone, and you'd have to prove yourself innocent after. I even had them apologize to me afterward in DM's when I showed them proof they banned me for no reason. I left because I knew 4+ owners on Aether that knew about malicious things in the community and they wanted to look away and did not care.

2) I HATE LALAFELL NSFW. *GRABS YOUR EAR, AND YANKS YOU CLOSE TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN HEAR ME* WHAT PART OF RESPECT DO PEOPLE MISS WHEN I'M SPEAKING. If I wanted to call out anything I thought was gross, I'd be going to every makeup mod artist on twitter and telling them that splashing a rainbow on their face is gross. But I know how to keep my mouth shut because my personal taste/opinion isn't important because at the end of the day, no matter how loud I could bark about it, they'd still exist with a large market of interest, same as lalafell. You speaking your opinion doesn't manifest any meaningful results besides harassment.

3) No, they cannot exclude people for any reason. In private settings, yes, but in public, no. Not from communities.
"Expressions that attempt to unilaterally exclude someone from the game or content/community, etc."
(Except when in accordance with rules set by an administrator such as a Free Company Master)

Outside of the unrealism of having to teach conversation tricks/corners to wall people into a violation to every random lalafell in the community, it's off-game exclusion that often I have a problem with. Most venues are actually easy to get banned once you know the tricks because they're rude and think they can ban anyone for any reason out of their venue and that's not the case. You need a reason for it, and it can't be just any reason such as one of the examples given: ""Don't join if your equipment is that bad/such a low item level." That isn't allowed. But most, will try to argue and end breaking "Expressions that unilaterally reject another person's opinion." because they don't know how to debate and be understanding of other people. They want to think their word is God when Square wants people to be understanding and have healthy conversations.

Okay, but what's the excuse of you literally stalking this person
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6212829

[AzanathEU]

The dark seedy underbelly of the Ff14 Community: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.".

[VoidsentStatus]

Okay, but what's the excuse of you literally stalking this person
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6212829

It's a FC house. It's on lodestone. The only people that often say gil is useless is people that don't have significant investment in the game and you check that on lodestone. They have no crafters or gatherers level'd past a handful at 50. They don't raid hardcore. They're not ranked up in Eureka, and barely mostly done with Bozja, but nowhere near enough to farm gil since they haven't hit Rank 25 yet. They only have 2 forum posts in 4 years and decided to log in to critique me and dismiss lalafell while claiming they have 50mil. They have 0 access to any of the big/main gil making methods. I would love to see someone grind out 50mil through deep dungeons, treasure maps, roulette's, maybe selling rp services at best for absolutely zero reason because all the gil they just farmed out over months is useless in their opinion. I don't see it. You don't just casually make 50mil. I can go into any MMO and play casually and claim in-game cash is pointless.

[WilhelmWhite]

It's a FC house. It's on lodestone. The only people that often say gil is useless is people that don't have significant investment in the game and you check that on lodestone. They have no crafters or gatherers level'd past a handful at 50. They don't raid hardcore. They're not ranked up in Eureka, and barely mostly done with Bozja, but nowhere near enough to farm gil since they haven't hit Rank 25 yet. They only have 2 forum posts in 4 years and decided to log in to critique me and dismiss lalafell while claiming they have 50mil. They have 0 access to any of the big/main gil making methods. I would love to see someone grind out 50mil through deep dungeons, treasure maps, roulette's, maybe selling rp services at best for absolutely zero reason because all the gil they just farmed out over months is useless in their opinion. I don't see it. You don't just casually make 50mil. I can go into any MMO and play casually and claim in-game cash is pointless.

While I apologized for my earlier comments, this is not ok. You can't advocate for people "wanting to do whatever they want, and play in peace", and then say this. At the end of the day, in game currency really DOES NOT mean anything, and trying to make it seem like someone has to be as invested as you are in the game to criticize you is a shitty take. Gil/Property in the game may mean more to you in the RP/Venue community, but for many people, it has absolutely no bearing on their enjoyment of the game. No matter how much they do or don't have.

You: "Everyone should be able to play the way they want, and enjoy the things they want in the game"
Also you: "Don't talk to me if you don't have all of your crafters leveled, don't have a large house, don't do savage raiding, and don't have max rank in Bozja/Eureka."

Make it make sense my guy.

[VoidsentStatus]

Make it make sense my guy.

If I want to be more specific, I mentioned those because they are the areas of the game/gil making methods.

End game choices for players:
Crafting - not entered, requires easily 10-20+mil and hours of maintenance every patch. There are no crafters that say gil is useless.
Gathering - ^ same story, but more of a time sink as opposed to gil sink.
Housing - does not have what the vast majority of the playerbase is satisfied with (medium/large housing). Gil sink for crafter leveling or purchasing housing items. Noone seriously into housing says gil is useless when that is the #1 field that most people break ToS and RMT for.
Glams - Millions on dye's, crafting or gil sink locked for certain outfits. 20+ outfits and have spend 20+mil easy over time.
Gpose - Overlap with the Glam end-game. They also need gil for photography studios , updating sets with new items, seasons/holidays change, theme changes. Either you need gil, or someone you know needs gil to do this long-term as your enjoyment in most cases.
Roleplay - Glam, Gpose, and Housing overlap on gil costs +emotes/minions/mounts.
Deep Dungeons/Bozja/Eureka/Golden Saucer etc. - not considered end game for most people for sustained enjoyment.
Raiding - The reason I brought up savage raiding is because I know people that don't invest into traditional gil making methods because they sell raid clears and can earn tens of millions from that. But you're not going to be in a 7 man carry team and you don't have regular clears. So that's one gil method off the table. People that are hardcore into raiding also either need to be able to make their gear or have someone who can. Not only is that a gil sink either you or someone you know has to make, but also melding which is several million more since anyone treating raiding as an end-game isn't going to be waiting for Echo to be super strong.

Traditionally being able to be self-sufficient and not having to rely on other people for repairs and making gear is being called useless. I'm gonna scoff at that as that's the main reason most people level crafters that didn't want to originally.

If you want to say gil is useless to /you/, fine. But gil is useless point blank, is false.

People have assumed I put that out to brag about how much I make, when the message isn't meant for everyone here. It was for them specifically to go back into their linkshell and complain to everyone else selling in the bozja market who I was taking money from. When they can go into purchase history and get pissed off about it. That is a receipt related to external beef since they wanted to lie earlier in shout chat. But people wouldn't have context and want to comment on messages not meant for them.

[TWOxACROSS]

I know how to keep my mouth shut

Then please, exercise this knowledge.

You have been up and down this thread saying a whole lot of weird stuff only tangentially related to the topic; bragging about how much gil you have made; talking about threatening to tank server markets because people crossed you; and denigrating others for what kind of house they may have; yet then also talking about in-game and IRL harassment? There's no point. You're getting into arguments with strangers on the internet over literally nothing, in a thread about a dumb chair.

Be gracious and don't bother responding to me, I have enough novels to read.