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    Atelier-Bagur's Avatar
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    You haven't read even the first few pages of the thread if you genuinely think this (which I doubt most of you actually do). I've specifically mentioned that I don't want 'hellgrinds' as it's been named previously. Unending grinds is the opposite extreme of what we have now. I'm not calling for FFXIV to be hurtled into that extreme, but rather go somewhere in the middle. Sadly it seems like anytime anyone asks for that, they are misinterpreted (intentionally or not) to be asking for 'hellgrinds'. People are too scared to admit/realize that we're at the opposite extreme of WoW, and that both extremes are bad.

    Yet this graph isnt realistic. Please for the love of the Twelve tell me where ANY player realistically felt satisfied with a piece of content that lasted and kept that retention for the "sweet spot" of retention you place here. Everyone I interacted, everyone whom I known in other MMOs have either min-max the content to finish it early or do it long enough to lose interest and move on to something else. Every piece of content in this game including relics never last long enough to pad out the patch cycle. It has always been a get your fill and come back later scenario. Why are we pretending it wasnt always like this?
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    Zanarkand-Ronso's Avatar
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Yet this graph isnt realistic. Please for the love of the Twelve tell me where ANY player realistically felt satisfied with a piece of content that lasted and kept that retention for the "sweet spot" of retention you place here. Everyone I interacted, everyone whom I known in other MMOs have either min-max the content to finish it early or do it long enough to lose interest and move on to something else. Every piece of content in this game including relics never last long enough to pad out the patch cycle. It has always been a get your fill and come back later scenario. Why are we pretending it wasnt always like this?
    Bouncing off of this....once again...saying this for the 3rd time...maybe I just missed it since there is so many threads here.
    But...what kind of Content are you asking for, that would realistically fill this "Lasting Content"? If the solution is to just make more content, then the sacrifice is we'd have to wait EVEN LONGER for the next patch so they could make this 'Lasting Content'.
    And lets humor the idea that this is what they do.....who is to say that you wont somehow blast through it all in a Short amount of time because likely you decided not to do anythng else but play all the games new content?
    Guess what...Back to squareone, complaining there isnt any/enough content, and now you have to wait...god who knows how long. But there is a solution to this...one that you claim you arnt asking for, but its the only way TO make "Lasting Content"...a ridiculous and dumb Hellgrind.This is the only way to pad out content to last. And not everybody wants this.

    The next complain will be "The Grind is too much, Nerf it"
    And guess what this means?...Absolutely, nothing, got solved.
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