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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    It's likely female Hrothgar and the graphical upgrade that is taking their time. Remember, it's not just characters getting a graphical upgrade in all likelihood, but EVERYTHING in the game, including old dungeons. That's going to require almost all hands on deck.
    Well, to be fully honest. Arent they getting a new people in their dev team? Those reworks of old content are probably done mainly by those new devs.

    Also, FF14 grows. We all want it to grow. but that also means, their team shoould grow and they should expand the game to new possibilities. People are never mad at the game because they want to. They love it and want it to be sucesfull and spend every time in it. Its more pressure on the devs, but you cant ever say No to your players.
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    When people are against even the basic idea of adding more content to a game, I think there's grounds for saying that there's either some level of zealotry going on or that people's standards are way too low. The fact that some people want to be told to not play the game they're paying for is mind-boggling.
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    There are enough people around in the community that do genuinely espouse the idea of SE being clean and pure as the wind-driven snow that it makes the more moderate crowd less noticeable, particularly with how positively vitriolic some of them can become in their defense of the company and game. People tend to focus on negative experiences, and I'd say some of the less-than-kind things said to and actions directed toward individuals bringing forth criticisms of the game more than qualify.

    For example; you will occasionally see mention on these forums of people being harassed in-game and on other media for criticisms of the game. When brought up, these instances are typically dismissed as being fictional. Such dismissals will occur regardless of the presence of absence of evidence, corroboration by others, etc. This is a thing that can and does happen more often than it should (and the amount it should happen is 0), and the people perpetrating it don't always get their due punishment.
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  4. #254
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    When people are against even the basic idea of adding more content to a game, I think there's grounds for saying that there's either some level of zealotry going on or that people's standards are way too low. The fact that some people want to be told to not play the game they're paying for is mind-boggling.
    Never have I once seen someone say they "want" to be told to play something else...
    I've only seen people say that they like that xiv allows them to play what they want without fear of falling behind.

    You know what's more mind boggling? People paying for a game they do nothing but complain about at every turn. All that does is tell the devs it's ok to do whatever you feel they're doing wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDaddy View Post
    Well, to be fully honest. Arent they getting a new people in their dev team? Those reworks of old content are probably done mainly by those new devs.

    Also, FF14 grows. We all want it to grow. but that also means, their team shoould grow and they should expand the game to new possibilities. People are never mad at the game because they want to. They love it and want it to be sucesfull and spend every time in it. Its more pressure on the devs, but you cant ever say No to your players.
    The ones that SE "borrowed" for XVI is slowly moving back to XIV I would assume since 16 is getting close to being complete. Hopefully they will have something to show by 7.0 but putting hope in a large company has rarely been a good move, lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    You know what's more mind boggling? People paying for a game they do nothing but complain about at every turn. All that does is tell the devs it's ok to do whatever you feel they're doing wrong.
    Who says you can't do both? Besides, I though the devs stopped putting stock into the forums a long time ago, lmao.
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  6. #256
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    It's likely female Hrothgar and the graphical upgrade that is taking their time. Remember, it's not just characters getting a graphical upgrade in all likelihood, but EVERYTHING in the game, including old dungeons. That's going to require almost all hands on deck.
    Yep yep. It's why I said "they're working on content for the future, which needs a lot of work than the features we have now". Graphical updates are NO freaking joke x_x

    But it is weird. I don't know how much of their time is being taken. But... and this is obviously purely subjective and all that. It just feels like the stuff we're getting is kind of... half-arsed? Like, it's coming out a bit more barebones than usual. Ears being cut off, plots being glitched, content being rather barebones and simplistic. And I wonder if something happened.

    Again: this is disproven easily by anyone with more knowledge than I. As well as how the majority of this is based entirely on "me feeling like the quality is dodgy". Didn't Yoshida do a presentation on what their workflow is being like and what stuff requires the most time? It'd easily disprove a lot of it, I'm sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    When people are against even the basic idea of adding more content to a game, I think there's grounds for saying that there's either some level of zealotry going on or that people's standards are way too low. The fact that some people want to be told to not play the game they're paying for is mind-boggling.
    and yet you're missing the entire point of the argument. Nobody is saying we dont want new content, just that some of the ideas you and aveyond throw around arent very good for what should or should be considered "good retention content". The point is we want to avoid crappy grinds for the sake of grinds. There's also the argument that no single content is everlasting and fulfilling enough to keep you entertained for the whole patch duration. That in of itself is a myth as people finish up whatever new activity of the week is and go back to do old content, play with friends or just spend their time elsewhere.

    What you're debating for is not new content, its for lasting content that involves needless grinds. Lets be honest here awesomeJr, you're not fooling anyone with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    IS is a nice location to just go and be somewhere with myself and my thoughts. Has nothing to do with content. Folks I know spend most of their days in there, what they're doing exactly all the time I can't say. Really don't get your point.
    So its just AFKing area. Nothing bad with that. But dont be mad that some other folks see it as just solo Limsa and take it as a wasted resourcess. Because if IS is the reason there is no Bozja this expac, then people are ofc not happy.

    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Next you definition of game reading is much different I see. Also is that whole "you will never see that many buffs" some sort of odd jab at me or something? Lol
    Dunno. Is it? Because I only see that to you, its not gamebreaking. I didnt said you not seeing that many buffs is bad. 99% of people will not. Most of the savage raiders will not. But the bug is there and it is gamebreaking, even for only that small minority of people.
    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Next uhh what does ff7 have to do with ff14?
    Meant 7.0 update. My bad



    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    Sounds like a few people are asking for a mandatory log in every day to grind currency or fall behind system, you know one of the things people complained most about in WoW. No MMO has content that is new and fresh that occupies every minute of every players times between patches or expansions, it's just the nature of the genre. Content always takes longer to create than to consume.
    Really well done. How to misinterpret something on purpose is a skill you 100% have.
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    And yet quite a few of us would be perfectly happy with a new (non-Pagos) Eureka-level grind.
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  10. #260
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    The ones that SE "borrowed" for XVI is slowly moving back to XIV I would assume since 16 is getting close to being complete. Hopefully they will have something to show by 7.0 but putting hope in a large company has rarely been a good move, lol.



    Who says you can't do both? Besides, I though the devs stopped putting stock into the forums a long time ago, lmao.
    Do both? No clue what that means exactly. But I'll bite.
    If a fast food joint has lowered the quality of their foods to a level you personally dislike, you wouldnt continue to buy food from them. Losing customers is what makes companies move. If you're writing bad reviews but still going there every day (making this known) they don't care as they're still getting your money. They've no reason to change anything. That's my point. So yes you can complain and still stay subbed, just understand that it's not going to be as effective doing that.

    ARR came about due to people leaving 1.0. Just sayin
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