Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
P8S P1 IS the ultimate part. Deaths are pretty much not allowed most of the time because it'll result in somebody else dying. Therein lies the ultimate part. P2 is really easy in comparison and definitely my favorite fight this tier, but getting there is such a horrible slog that it isn't funny. I've had nights where even with the normal static, getting past P1 is such a pain and draining effort (only get leg first, never arm...) with no mistakes allowed that it feels like you're beating your head against an ultimate.
I think that is just normally savage final floor, not "Ultimate" level. Taking another 4th floor from this expansion, P4s phase 2 if someone died in a lot of spots the fight was basically a wash. Act 1 8 tower soaks, Act 2 Multiple Fire stacks that will kill people if not enough are in the stack. Act 3 has 2 sets of 4 towers that need to be soaked. Act 4 has towers + purple tethers that leave a magic vuln so you cant pop too soon (from death for instance), etc. etc. etc. P8s has similar pain points, but i've been apart of clears with multiple deaths in phase 1..

P8s is not ultimate level difficulty