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  1. #91
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    How you dare to ask for current content to be harder? what about our anxiety issue? you have ultimates for that, leaves us in peace with our avenues and erp events.
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  2. #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnRam View Post
    How you dare to ask for current content to be harder? what about our anxiety issue? you have ultimates for that, leaves us in peace with our avenues and erp events.



    Confused. Do you do anevues and erp events or are you upset normal content is too easy?


    Cuz it doesn't look like you do the hard content so...
    Why is it that seemingly the loudest people complaining about "game being too easy" don't actually engage in the more difficult content?
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 02-11-2023 at 05:05 AM.

  3. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnRam View Post
    How you dare to ask for current content to be harder? what about our anxiety issue? you have ultimates for that, leaves us in peace with our avenues and erp events.
    If people have an anxiety issue then seek out a therapist. I fail to see what that has to do with difficulty in a video game.
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    Slightly harder difficulty normal content will just become normal content when you've done it five times. *shrug*
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  5. #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    If people have an anxiety issue then seek out a therapist. I fail to see what that has to do with difficulty in a video game.
    To parrot off this, I myself have dangerously bad anxiety(like literally had massive chest pains when doing Savage back in Stormblood), and it didn't stop me from doing harder content. There is therapy or if that isn't your fancy, medication for such issue.

    As for why I pushed myself to do Savage even though I knew it would bring me genuine pain? I like to live dangerously. (And also Omega is just a cool set of raids)
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  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    It has nothing to do with what you say and everything to do with rewards and this is the reason SE's hands are tied.
    Why would people want to bother running Orbonne in their daily roulette when CT gives the same rewards for half the time? When faced with the possibility players will often choose the path of least resistance.
    Which is why SE can't significantly increase the difficulty of any content in DF or else people will just dodge or do they hardest to not unlock it.
    So you want the to increase the difficulty of everything because why? Are the rewards going to get better or are you wanting people to just work harder for what they are already getting?
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  7. #97
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    I don't entirely disagree with the point being made - But in oft' cases this point is often a precursor for "Develop more content lul" - I don't think the game has an issue related entirely to the content 'volume' as it were, just the incentive to replay said content, with many systems arguably being disconnected, when they could be meshed into one, or combined to create something more substantive. e.g., combining Eureka/Bozjan system with something such as Deep Dungeon, or conversely introducing the gathering and crafting concept of Island Sanctuary into Deep Dungeons, or just dungeons in general, to create something that entices players to interact with and explore their environment a little more, even if this concept is as simple as 'fish in the small river in Brayflox and obtain a key' - In this sense, incorporating dungeoneering into the players' experience.
    I understand and also agree. I'm on record for wanting Eureka/Bozja to have incorporated Treasure Maps, after all

    As well as the whole "Deck of Sixty for AST pls" thing.

    Overall, I don't think what we have is bad. I think what we have is often left unfinished, when it could kinda do well enough with ideas from other stuff we've been having as detached features.

    I'm mostly thinking of the game as how FF12 did some of its sidequests. It being a solo-focused game will naturally also have a large focus on the gameplay elements. But to me, they've been incorporated into a major portion of what FF12 was about: exploration. You were rewarded for straying off the dictated path. You were rewarded with extra areas and sidequests if you decided to do more than what the game told you.
    It's why I love the concept of Variant Dungeons. They just needed better rewards.

    So to me, the problem with "volume" is less so "omg we have too much and it all sucks", but rather "We have a lot, which is good, but they're simplistic. We can do better with what we've got."
    Hence why I mentioned how casual content is lacking. If you notice, I say "Eureka is a FATE-only area" = can do with more stuff in it. "BLU has no application past a challenge log and carnivale" = it has potential, expanding upon it would benefit it. As well as giving more features in the same vein as Bard Performance, which don't require combat gameplay mechanics or working toward a reward to be reaped. Simply features that allow players to have fun and experiment with without it becoming necessarily "outdated" after a while. It's not just volume, but how robust the content is.

    Otherwise, one thing I enjoy? POTD. Deep Dives were the absolute bomb for me. Gameplay at those levels is just unenjoyable for me at the moment, otherwise I'd definitely keep doing it nowadays. Because I had to work for something, yes, but it had more than just the obvious grindy levels.
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  8. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    So you want the to increase the difficulty of everything because why? Are the rewards going to get better or are you wanting people to just work harder for what they are already getting?
    Did you even read my post?
    I never said anything about wanting to increase the difficulty of content, I just said that your argument that difficult content can't be popular is faulty.
    Difficult content could be implemented if the rewards follow, but being part of the roulette system makes it really difficult for Square Enix.
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    Last edited by Kazhar; 02-11-2023 at 05:21 AM.

  9. #99
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    Did you even read my post?
    And it didn't explain at all why criterion, which is a deliberate attempt by them to provide more difficult content, is completely abandoned.
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  10. #100
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    So you want the to increase the difficulty of everything because why? Are the rewards going to get better or are you wanting people to just work harder for what they are already getting?
    ...He only said "If Square increases the difficulty of something, people will try to take the easiest way out". Because it doesn't matter whether people are for or against it, Square knows that it's not so black and white.
    He wasn't advocating for nor against anything...

    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    And it didn't explain at all why criterion, which is a deliberate attempt by them to provide more difficult content, is completely abandoned.
    He mentioned the rewards on the first sentence. Which is the reason most point to to explain why that's dead content.

    The rest was reiterating why difficulty isn't the only factor, and why messing with difficulty isn't straightforward.
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