The difficulty of Normal Content in this game needs to increase.

[Rolder50]

...that these so called competent players cant clear without a load of 3rd party programs. Yet they prate about others lack of skill levels.

Pot, kettle, over.

You do realize that the mod that people were freaking out over was one that lets you zoom out the camera more right? You know there aren't mods that can solve mechanics for you right? I reckon more people use mods to see their character naked then anything else.

[VelKallor]

You do realize that the mod that people were freaking out over was one that lets you zoom out the camera more right? You know there aren't mods that can solve mechanics for you right? I reckon more people use mods to see their character naked then anything else.

Dont need mods at all. Dont need any of them. Game can be cleared w/out them, has been done and tested that way, as per YoshiP. Non issue. Mods arent needed.

Some players enjoy challenge and the problem with relegating it all to savage ex and ultimate is that 1) You don't get to actually fully utilize your job until max level and 2) it means the new player experience of doing 100+ hours of MSQ is an absolute slog for such players.

You do know that the MSQ solo instances have a very hard setting?

I reckon more people use mods to see their character naked then anything else.

Can do that with Emperor's New gear just as easily. No mods needed. Also, those specific mods are a can of worms you do NOT want to open.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

You do realize that the mod that people were freaking out over was one that lets you zoom out the camera more right? You know there aren't mods that can solve mechanics for you right? I reckon more people use mods to see their character naked then anything else.

Pretty sure they were also using one that displayed where AOEs would hit. And thats just ones we saw.

[Kazhar]

Pretty sure they were also using one that displayed where AOEs would hit. And thats just ones we saw.

Not the same team.
What does it have to do with the difficulty of casual content by the way?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Not the same team.
What does it have to do with the difficulty of casual content by the way?

Absolutely nothing. But if one team was using it likely others were too. And if harder content is what people want, why do they find shortcuts to make it easier?


Note, I'm not saying no to harder casual content. I've long stated that alliance raids should be locked to the highest ilvl of the patch they released in.

[Kazhar]

Absolutely nothing. But if one team was using it likely others were too. And if harder content is what people want, why do they find shortcuts to make it easier?


Note, I'm not saying no to harder casual content. I've long stated that alliance raids should be locked to the highest ilvl of the patch they released in.

Oh, so yet another disingenuous crap by the usual suspects. I swear this controversy really made everyone stupider.

They cheated to win the World Race, not because the content was too hard for them. I'm pretty sure you didn't need me to tell you that, you just chose the road of bad faith yet again.

Nevermind that multiple teams cleared on stream without the use of any cheats, gotta demonize the entire raid community with that garbage for easy points.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Oh, so yet another disingenuous crap by the usual suspects. I swear this controversy really made everyone stupider.

They cheated to win the World Race, not because the content was too hard for them.

Nevermind that multiple teams cleared on stream without the use of any cheats, gotta demonize the entire raid community with that garbage for easy points.

I'm literally part of the raid community.... I've been raiding since Binding Coil lmao.


Cheats can be hidden on stream. Easily. I'm not claiming every hardcore raider cheats. I know they all don't. But we also know that things a minority does will affect us all. See waymarks and no longer being able to place them. That was how my group cleared T9 back in the day, by me being able to manually place waymarks for Divebombs.

[VelKallor]

Not the same team.
What does it have to do with the difficulty of casual content by the way?

Simple: we have here a thread commenting on "competence" of players, by people who clamoured for "hard challenging content"..and were then shown to not be able to clear it without a load of TOS forbidden 3rd party programs. Maybe they ought to be looking at their own skill..or lack thereof..if they cant clear that content without addons.

People in glass houses......

Ill be blunt

If they cant or wont clear savage or ex or ultimate without addons, if they cant or wont clear said content on a vanilla UI, then they have no business criticising anyone's skill..especially when others arent using forbidden addons to play the game for them.

[Rolder50]

Not the same team.
What does it have to do with the difficulty of casual content by the way?

Strawman arguments is all they know how to do, sadly.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Strawman arguments is all they know how to do, sadly.

You were the one who brought up how the mods being used couldn't solve mechanics, which is wrong.


I honestly wonder how the "best" WF teams would do if they had to play on consoles lol.