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    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    There's a world of difference between taking offence at someone trying to help you with constructive criticism, and taking offence at a blatantly racist joke.
    The fact is, if people don't like what you're saying, they're allowed to disagree with you.

    All of this "you can't say anything anymore" bullshit is actually a thinly veiled attempt to censor people who disagree with backwards views. It's telling 'the woke' to shut up and put up with bigotry.

    Meanwhile players who get constructive criticism for their performance, and take it badly, are likely that way because they've become used to other players being aggressive and judgemental. As I said, these are actually entirely opposite issues. Players get defensive about their performance because of aggressive, highly competitive players who try to police everything.
    They shouldn't get defensive about constructive criticism, but they shouldn't have to get defensive either.
    You keep jumping to racism and bigotry. If you’re seeing this everywhere then maybe it’s you. Keep trying to argue with me over an issue I’m not addressing,

    I said “cant criticize or say anything that makes a person have a negative emotion”

    Your response “racism, sexism, bigotry”

    Your responses have nothing to do with what I’m referring to. You’re using buzzwords to excuse your crap attitude and to justify your negative responses. This is the same attitude and justification the cry bullies I refer to use.

    You can’t make a legitimate claim or criticism without an individual such as yourself charging in like “but it’s worse!!! Ree ree ree”.
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    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    You keep jumping to racism and bigotry. If you’re seeing this everywhere then maybe it’s you. Keep trying to argue with me over an issue I’m not addressing,

    I said “cant criticize or say anything that makes a person have a negative emotion”

    Your response “racism, sexism, bigotry”

    Your responses have nothing to do with what I’m referring to. You’re using buzzwords to excuse your crap attitude and to justify your negative responses. This is the same attitude and justification the cry bullies I refer to use.

    You can’t make a legitimate claim or criticism without an individual such as yourself charging in like “but it’s worse!!! Ree ree ree”.
    What is going on, is you're making an argument for 'criticising things'.
    Which I don't disagree with.

    But the TC very clearly was referring to making offensive jokes, which means "racism, sexism, homophobia, bigotry, etc".

    I was arguing against the TC's quite obvious trolling. You've decided to use me as an example of people who argue against giving criticism.

    If I'm arguing over an issue you're not addressing, maybe you should have read the TC's first post a little more closely and not used my argument against bigotry as an example in your completely different argument.

    To top it off, you're now referring to people on one side of one of these arguments as 'cry bullies'. Are you referring to me? I have no idea, because you conflated the two arguments. This is how offense ends up being taken.

    Ironically, you're now characterising me with things like "Reeeee", when I haven't once lost my cool.
    You see, you are the one getting defensive in response to cool-headed counterarguments right now.
    You are a case study in why people get offended by things online. Because text doesn't convey tone of voice, or emotion.
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    Last edited by Seraphor; 02-06-2023 at 01:55 AM.