Is there too much soy in this game's community

[Kolaina]

I do think this is a good topic even if it’s meant to rile people up. I find I don’t type much of anything any more because of people’s reactions.

I got kicked out of an alliance raid once after being berated for simply saying “please dodge” to a dragoon who got hit by literally every mechanic. Reamed out for telling a tank how to play when I said “cooldowns please. Need mitigation”.

This isn’t about not being able to be racist, homophonic or sexist like the one poster suggest. That’s a common claim meant to dismiss used by the exact community OP is referring to.

This community has become far too sensitive. Can’t hurt anyone’s feelings. Criticize anything. Burst their tiny bubbles.

But I tell ya, it’s ok when they do it. Because they are on the righteous side of protecting fragile feelings

[Seraphor]

I do think this is a good topic even if it’s meant to rile people up. I find I don’t type much of anything any more because of people’s reactions.

I got kicked out of an alliance raid once after being berated for simply saying “please dodge” to a dragoon who got hit by literally every mechanic. Reamed out for telling a tank how to play when I said “cooldowns please. Need mitigation”.

This isn’t about not being able to be racist, homophonic or sexist like the one poster suggest. That’s a common claim meant to dismiss used by the exact community OP is referring to.

This community has become far too sensitive. Can’t hurt anyone’s feelings. Criticize anything. Burst their tiny bubbles.

But I tell ya, it’s ok when they do it. Because they are on the righteous side of protecting fragile feelings

Please do tell us exactly what the TC meant and how that actually conforms to what you mean now.

From what I can see, the TC specifically mentioned insulting and mocking people, specifically in making jokes, not criticising their skill or performance.

Several people have now turned this topic towards receiving backlash from giving constructive criticism, which might be what you want to talk about, but it's not what the TC was talking about. They're two entirely different things, with different arguments. So don't conflate them with comments like: "This isn’t about not being able to be racist, homophonic or sexist like the one poster suggest. That’s a common claim meant to dismiss used by the exact community OP is referring to." when that's exactly what it is about, in an attempt to discredit the counterargument for something completely unrelated.

[SassyAssassin]

My lovelies, please make sure to note most soy sauce has gluten, stay safe out there, keep your posteriors clean.

[Kolaina]

Please do tell us exactly what the TC meant and how that actually conforms to what you mean now.

From what I can see, the TC specifically mentioned insulting and mocking people, specifically in making jokes, not criticising their skill or performance.

Several people have now turned this topic towards receiving backlash from giving constructive criticism, which might be what you want to talk about, but it's not what the TC was talking about. They're two entirely different things, with different arguments. So don't conflate them with comments like: "This isn’t about not being able to be racist, homophonic or sexist like the one poster suggest. That’s a common claim meant to dismiss used by the exact community OP is referring to." when that's exactly what it is about, in an attempt to discredit the counterargument for something completely unrelated.

The premise is still the same. You can’t say anything to anyone that takes them out of their safe space. Anything that criticizes whether it’s legitimate or an obvious joke. People crack like an egg and then get out of whack about anything non positive.

As far as the OP, they’re right. You can’t even joke anymore. Bobby said it. I said it over a year ago in the forums. Offence is taken, not given.

If you’re unhappy with something; change it. If you can’t change it; then change your attitude.

The perpetually offended may be creating an issue that originally wasn’t there to begin with

[Rannie]

Mmm soy sauce with Wasabi or even dyed green horse radish
... enough to make your nose and eyes water please!

[DPZ2]

"Men who produce less testosterone are more likely to be in a relationship[65] or married,[66] and men who produce more testosterone are more likely to divorce.[66]"
[Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testosterone]

Perhaps a number of players have, as Cat Stevens wrote in his song Father and Son:

Find a girl, settle down
If you want you can marry
Look at me, I am old but I'm happy

(Please replace "girl" with your own preference here.)

Remember kids. You will get older.

[Gariored]

I gave up typing in DF for same reason, I just want to get in and out I don't have time for drama and as dumb as it sounds, I rather take a wipe again and again than point out who did what wrong.
idk if people have been emboldened by the mods but there's more and more people with "big brother" syndrome nowadays..

This community has become far too sensitive. Can’t hurt anyone’s feelings. Criticize anything. Burst their tiny bubbles.

But I tell ya, it’s ok when they do it. Because they are on the righteous side of protecting fragile feelings

yup, because at that point you are a "troll" and now they can be 1000X worse because they're "protecting" the community.

[DPZ2]

The perpetually offended may be creating an issue that originally wasn’t there to begin with

Conversely, the perpetually offending may be getting their just reward for years of verbal abuse.

[MaxCarnage]

Please do tell us exactly what the TC meant and how that actually conforms to what you mean now.

From what I can see, the TC specifically mentioned insulting and mocking people, specifically in making jokes, not criticising their skill or performance.

Several people have now turned this topic towards receiving backlash from giving constructive criticism, which might be what you want to talk about, but it's not what the TC was talking about. They're two entirely different things, with different arguments. So don't conflate them with comments like: "This isn’t about not being able to be racist, homophonic or sexist like the one poster suggest. That’s a common claim meant to dismiss used by the exact community OP is referring to." when that's exactly what it is about, in an attempt to discredit the counterargument for something completely unrelated.

So, because Skiros didn't specifically say that people can't take constructive criticism, other people aren't allowed to make mention of it? I wasn't aware conversations weren't allowed to grow and evolve. I also wasn't aware you couldn't use a troll thread to address actual issues. /shrug

[Seraphor]

The premise is still the same. You can’t say anything to anyone that takes them out of their safe space. Anything that criticizes whether it’s legitimate or an obvious joke. People crack like an egg and then get out of whack about anything non positive.

As far as the OP, they’re right. You can’t even joke anymore. Bobby said it. I said it over a year ago in the forums. Offence is taken, not taken.

If you’re unhappy with something; change it. If you can’t change it; then change your attitude.

The perpetually offended may be creating an issue that originally wasn’t there to begin with

There's a world of difference between taking offence at someone trying to help you with constructive criticism, and taking offence at a blatantly racist joke.

The fact is, if people don't like what you're saying, they're allowed to disagree with you.
All of this "you can't say anything anymore" bullshit is actually a thinly veiled attempt to censor people who disagree with backwards views. It's telling 'the woke' to shut up and put up with bigotry.

Meanwhile players who get constructive criticism for their performance, and take it badly, are likely that way because they've become used to other players being aggressive and judgemental. As I said, these are actually entirely opposite issues. Players get defensive about their performance because of aggressive, highly competitive players who try to police everything.
They shouldn't get defensive about constructive criticism, but they shouldn't have to get defensive either.