Ungendered sit poses, please?

[PyurBlue]

Because what you want and what you expect are two different things

At this point, it feels like you're going off on a tangent. Whatever it is that you think I want, and whatever it is that you think I expect don't have any obvious connections to the lack of information present in the character creation process.

a visible indicator that there is or is not interest

If you remember you were called out for stating that one group is small. You had no evidence for this.

The absolute unabashed EGO of you people. This is dripping in narcissism, "The only thing I need to say is I want it, and it's justified enough to make a 'request' - I don't need any other argument ".

A bit of an overreaction isn't it?

What was said is completely correct. You don't need anything other than a desire to make a request. Why would you need anything else?

Now to be fair to you, it seems like from some of your later posts you're arguing that how other people are affected should be taken into account. That's always nice to do, but we're on a forum. If other people have objections, they can voice them. That's more sensible than having the original requester trying to figure out every possible problem that their idea may create.

If you're also referring to the technical side of implementing a new idea, that essentially requires SE to participate in the discussion. Not that it stops people from speculating on their own (and that includes myself). The fact of the matter is, as much as people like to guess that adding X will cause the servers to explode, or adding Y would cost SE 12 trillion dollars and bankrupt them, the average forum goer doesn't know that with much certainty. So rather than putting an impossible hurdle before someone just trying to suggest an improvement, let them speak freely and things can go from there.

At this point this thread is dumb and has gone nowhere. Again this isn't real life and no game is going to be able to allow you to "express yourself" 100% how you want.

Yes how convenient, the thing you're against simply can't happen and because of that no one should try to make obvious improvements either.

I'm honestly glad my enjoyment of a game isn't tied in any way to how well I'm able to express myself. More important things to worry/care about in xiv

It's also convenient that you know the correct way to enjoy video games and how to objectively weight the importance of a recreational activity.

The thread going nowhere is more of a reflection of a desire to have it go nowhere than anything else. For as much as some people want to say the whole thing is a trainwreck, there has at least been some communication between both sides.

For one thing it seems like the rigidity of the cpose list is something that should change. Some people are afraid that if poses are added, they'll have to deal with poses that they don't like. Some people are already in that boat. So I think a helpful suggestion to send to SE would be to work more customization into the cpose list. This would also allow the new sit poses to become universal as the biggest drawback to them, and the drawback that already exists for current poses, would be removed.

The only issue I suppose, is that the group against unlocking anything at all isn't going to happy with any change. I'm not sure how to compromise with them. I can echo what has been said before, that universal poses don't take away from the uniqueness of different characters since things like appearance and lore exist, and just from a realism standpoint, there isn't a sensible way to prevent one character from posing exactly like another. "Giving up" exclusive poses doesn't seem like a concession at all. Yet there is a group that would argue otherwise. So debate on that subject is probably just going to go on and on.