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    PyurBlue's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    The thread HASNT gone anywhere.
    Well, I still feel like I've come out with more information than when I came in.

    It is a fact that people will never be able to fully express themselves how they want in any game. Yes indeed that CANT happen.
    I think you're a bit overconfident on this. Personally, I feel like FF14 would be in a good spot if it just got rid of arbitrary restrictions. I can deal with limited developer resources meaning we can't have 50,000 emotes, but having 20 good emotes and being locked out of 15 of them because "those are for guys" or something just feels dumb.

    Did I say improvements can't be made? No. Quote where I said that or stop talking plz if you're gonna put words in my mouth.
    You said the tread was dumb, you mentioned that FF14 isn't real life, and you mentioned that being 100% satisfied with expression is impossible. From what I recall, only you've mentioned anything about 100% satisfaction. I brought up the immersion factor of locked emotes by stating in real life anyone could make any pose they wanted, but apparently since this isn't real life that point is completely invalid? The majority of the thread is just suggesting improvements, at least in those posts made by people wanting to see some kind of change, so I don't think it's a stretch to interpret your comment as being against seeking improvements, at least in the context of this thread.

    But if you're saying that I'm wrong, then fine, I read too much into it.

    Next. I know the correct way to enjoy a video for ME. Did you miss the "I'm glad my enjoyment" part there? That part is about me, myself and I. And I've already put forth a compromise, give both genders more exclusive emotes. Give a male a more feminine sit but make it fully theirs. (Ie dont just give them a sit females have). Same for women with a masculine sit. I don't see how this is an issue. It gives more options while also keeping things exclusive
    You also mentioned that there are more important things to worry about. Now this could have also been in reference to your personal feelings, but then why even state it? What important is always going to be subjective.

    As for your suggested compromise, I touched on the problem with it earlier. It's simply inefficient. The devs will make 50 emotes, but then any character will only get 5 of them, and the player doesn't get a say in which 5. They could all be awful. It's very similar to the issue that people have brought up with auto cpose. The less control we have, the more likely it is we'll have to deal with something that we don't like. If the devs made 50 unrestricted emotes, then there is no problem. Any player can pick the best ones for their character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PyurBlue View Post
    Well, I still feel like I've come out with more information than when I came in.


    I think you're a bit overconfident on this. Personally, I feel like FF14 would be in a good spot if it just got rid of arbitrary restrictions. I can deal with limited developer resources meaning we can't have 50,000 emotes, but having 20 good emotes and being locked out of 15 of them because "those are for guys" or something just feels dumb.


    You said the tread was dumb, you mentioned that FF14 isn't real life, and you mentioned that being 100% satisfied with expression is impossible. From what I recall, only you've mentioned anything about 100% satisfaction. I brought up the immersion factor of locked emotes by stating in real life anyone could make any pose they wanted, but apparently since this isn't real life that point is completely invalid? The majority of the thread is just suggesting improvements, at least in those posts made by people wanting to see some kind of change, so I don't think it's a stretch to interpret your comment as being against seeking improvements, at least in the context of this thread.

    But if you're saying that I'm wrong, then fine, I read too much into it.



    You also mentioned that there are more important things to worry about. Now this could have also been in reference to your personal feelings, but then why even state it? What important is always going to be subjective.

    As for your suggested compromise, I touched on the problem with it earlier. It's simply inefficient. The devs will make 50 emotes, but then any character will only get 5 of them, and the player doesn't get a say in which 5. They could all be awful. It's very similar to the issue that people have brought up with auto cpose. The less control we have, the more likely it is we'll have to deal with something that we don't like. If the devs made 50 unrestricted emotes, then there is no problem. Any player can pick the best ones for their character.
    You must not be getting what I'm saying. I'm not saying have 20 emotes and have most be locked in saying have a bunch for each gender. Have each have 10+ different poses. Offer a greater volume of exclusive variety.

    My point about real life stems from the fact that there are limitation on what can be done in a game. I've said this like 3 times now and it's not sinking in. I wouldn't call it a stretch of you think I'm against improvements, I'd call it beyond stupid to come to that conclusion when I already made a suggestion for improvement pages ago. Come on now.

    The game you want is called Phantasy Star Online 2 New Genesis. They got rid of genders in that game and all emotes can be toggled between Type 1 and Type 2 as they're called. Seems far more up your alley and no this isn't sarcasm
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