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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    I certainly hope someone isn't conflating two seperate situations and understands that just because someone can be against removing gender/role/race restrictions from items doesn't mean they are against additional items for those genders/roles/races that are still unique. Or the fact that it would affect everyone because it would be applied to everyone, but I'm sure there's no one here trying to do that or anything.
    It's an option that you wouldn't need to apply to yourself, even if it's available to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tehmon View Post
    It's an option that you wouldn't need to apply to yourself, even if it's available to you.
    With the way Cpose is you can't just select the pose you want. You have to cycle through each pose before you get to the one you want which means you would have to use that pose at some point whether you wanted to or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    With the way Cpose is you can't just select the pose you want. You have to cycle through each pose before you get to the one you want which means you would have to use that pose at some point whether you wanted to or not.
    Oh my god. Typing /cpose would take a few seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tehmon View Post
    Oh my god. Typing /cpose would take a few seconds.
    And me having your glamour turned off wouldn't affect you. What's your point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    And me having your glamour turned off wouldn't affect you. What's your point?
    I WAS NEVER AGAINST THAT OPTION! I merely said that there are arguments to be made from both sides.

    My point is that the entire '' it won't affect you '' argument is very convenient when it's a feature you want, but oh my does that argument not apply when it's a feature you for some reason disapprove of. Afterwards it's definitely a feature that actually does affect the player in some arbitrary reason you've decided and thus cannot be implemented. And on that note, you just come off as a troll and/or dishonest.

    But if '' I might have to use this emote for 2 second as I type /cpose '' is actually a thing that thoroughly would affect you and your '' self-expression '' and that's the hill you are willing to die on, that's fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tehmon View Post
    I WAS NEVER AGAINST THAT OPTION! I merely said that there are arguments to be made from both sides.

    My point is that the entire '' it won't affect you '' argument is very convenient when it's a feature you want, but oh my does that argument not apply when it's a feature you for some reason disapprove of. Afterwards it's definitely a feature that actually does affect the player in some arbitrary reason you've decided and thus cannot be implemented. And on that note, you just come off as a troll and/or dishonest.

    But if '' I might have to use this emote for 2 second as I type /cpose '' is actually a thing that thoroughly would affect you and your '' self-expression '' and that's the hill you are willing to die on, that's fine.
    Because one (hide glam) is a feature that would only affect and be visible those who choose to use it while the other (poses) would be applied across the board and as such will be actively visible for those who wish not to use it, regardless if it's 2 seconds or 20 minutes.

    And again, I'm not against more options, just the idea that every emote, pose, what have you has to or needs to be applied to every race/gender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    Because one (hide glam) is a feature that would only affect and be visible those who choose to use it while the other (poses) would be applied across the board and as such will be actively visible for those who wish not to use it, regardless if it's 2 seconds or 20 minutes.

    And again, I'm not against more options, just the idea that every emote, pose, what have you has to or needs to be applied to every race/gender.
    They could also just make them into ballroom etiquette emotes or have a new beautician option that will give you the ability to learn/replace some poses and emotes in favor of another. Doesn't need to be applied to everyone...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tehmon View Post
    It's an option that you wouldn't need to apply to yourself, even if it's available to you.
    Where is the option to pick and choose the poses your character cycles through with randomized idle animation?

    As long as that option is not in the game, I don't want masculine poses for my female character.
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