Housing Roulette was an absolute trash idea.

[Seraphor]

Well, I never bring that up bc that is the person's choice to do. No one forced that ppl to do that. As I said I don't think the old system was good but to act like this system is any better is silly. I personally don't like a system that completely relays on rng and takes all the power away from the players. At least when I got my first house in SB I worked for it by making a plan and waking up early the morning when the new ward was unlocked for private buyers. I was rewarded for that hard work. Unlike now where it doesn't matter how hard I try to move my house I'll most likely still lose bc rng wasn't in my favor. To me, that feels a whole lot worst. Yesterday I went all day feeling depressed and hopeless bc I lost the plot I bidded with the lowest amount of ppl. How is that any better for my health? My day ruin bc of rng.. I still feel depressed today.

Feeling depressed over pixels is not even in the same ballpark of sacrificing your health. And yes, the system forced people to do that as it made it the most effective and only way to guarantee a house, and if you didn't, you didn't get a house, unless you were insanely lucky and stumbled across a vacant plot at the right time, which is no different to tackling the lottery RNG.
Btw, you weren't rewarded for hard work, you were rewarded for having a decent connection to the server.
Lottery RNG might be annoying, but it is FAIR, everyone has the same chance.
With the housing demolition timer back on and running again, lotteries are back on a regular cycle. If you didn't win one this time, try again net week.

[MrJPtheAssassin]

Feeling depressed over pixels is not even in the same ballpark of sacrificing your health. And yes, the system forced people to do that as it made it the most effective and only way to guarantee a house, and if you didn't, you didn't get a house, unless you were insanely lucky and stumbled across a vacant plot at the right time, which is no different to tackling the lottery RNG.
Btw, you weren't rewarded for hard work, you were rewarded for having a decent connection to the server.
Lottery RNG might be annoying, but it is FAIR, everyone has the same chance.
With the housing demolition timer back on and running again, lotteries are back on a regular cycle. If you didn't win one this time, try again net week.

They are in the same ballpark. You telling me I shouldn't be depressed over pixels but I say ppl shouldn't have to sacrifice their health over the same pixels. At the end of the day, we talking about the same thing here. No one asked that ppl to stay up for hours on end for pixels and no one told me to be depressed over those pixels. Also, I was rewarded bc I made the plans and thought ahead of other ppl. A random number was just picked out of a pool. As I said before I never thought the placard system was good but I don't think the lottery system is any better. The only real solution to this is to give everyone a house and do away with the outdated ward system. Also, there wouldn't be a better chance for me to get a med or large next week or anytime soon going forward so I'm stuck in one of the worst housing areas in the game(the goblet). All my savings got two expac amounting to nothing just because I have bad luck. How is that f'ing fair to me? Now I have a house I don't even feel like working with bc I hate the area it's in and the ward is completely died just like so many wards in this game. You work hard for something for years and dream about getting it just for an rng system just to tell you "You not lucky this time sorry better luck next time" You would be upset and depressed also. As I said this housing system ISNT better than placards. They both trash systems but one makes feelbad bc its completely up to a compute to pick your number.

[Seraphor]

They are in the same ballpark. You telling me I shouldn't be depressed over pixels but I say ppl shouldn't have to sacrifice their health over the same pixels. At the end of the day, we talking about the same thing here. No one asked that ppl to stay up for hours on end for pixels and no one told me to be depressed over those pixels. Also, I was rewarded bc I made the plans and thought ahead of other ppl. A random number was just picked out of a pool. As I said before I never thought the placard system was good but I don't think the lottery system is any better. The only real solution to this is to give everyone a house and do away with the outdated ward system. Also, there wouldn't be a better chance for me to get a med or large next week or anytime soon going forward so I'm stuck in one of the worst housing areas in the game(the goblet). All my savings got two expac amounting to nothing just because I have bad luck. How is that f'ing fair to me? Now I have a house I don't even feel like working with bc I hate the area it's in and the ward is completely died just like so many wards in this game. You work hard for something for years and dream about getting it just for an rng system just to tell you "You not lucky this time sorry better luck next time" You would be upset and depressed also. As I said this housing system ISNT better than placards. They both trash systems but one makes feelbad bc its completely up to a compute to pick your number.

No?
I entered the lottery for an Ishgard house when they were first released, because I've been wanting a house in Ishgard for years, and lost a three-way lottery against 2 other bidders.
Oh, damn, nevermind, try again next week.

Now I have an Ishgard house.

Just convert your "hours of clicking" energy into patience. The lottery happens every 9 days. If you're getting 1 other bidder every time, your 50/50 chance is going to turn into a win soon enough.

[MrJPtheAssassin]

No?
I entered the lottery for an Ishgard house when they were first released, because I've been wanting a house in Ishgard for years, and lost a three-way lottery against 2 other bidders.
Oh, damn, nevermind, try again next week.

Now I have an Ishgard house.

Just convert your "hours of clicking" energy into patience. The lottery happens every 9 days. If you're getting 1 other bidder every time, your 50/50 chance is going to turn into a win soon enough.

IM SOOO HAPPY FOR YOU..... Glad you have some damn luck. I don't... I never have luck. Plus I hight doubt there be a med or small open next week or going forward anywhere so I shit out of luck till they add more wards. Even then I mostly lose so why even try tbh. Im tired of talk to you. So have a bless day.

[Seraphor]

IM SOOO HAPPY FOR YOU..... Glad you have some damn luck. I dont... I never have luck. Plus I hight doult there be a med or small open next week or going forward any where so I shit out of luck till they add more wards. Even then I mostly lose so even try tbh. Im tied of talk to you. So have a bless day.

You know what they say.
"If at first you don't succeed... give up and cry and complain about life being unfair."

[MrJPtheAssassin]

You know what they say.
"If at first you don't succeed... give up and cry and complain about life being unfair."

Listen ass I'm just venting in an online forum. I'm allowed to vent so go f off. Most ppl don't like this system and want a better one. I also feel that way. It's still an unfair system that heavily relays on luck and rng to get anything. Some of yall act like this system is the best system when its not. It's just as bad as the placard. Replacing a bad system with another bad system isnt a great way fixing an issue that the game has had for a long time. So stop sucking up the devs and SQ and demand change.

[Seraphor]

Listen ass I'm just venting in an online forum. I'm allowed to vent so go f off. Most ppl don't like this system and want a better one. I also feel that way. It's still an unfair system that heavily relays on luck and rng to get anything. Some of yall act like this system is the best system when its not. It's just as bad as the placard. Replacing a bad system with another bad system isnt a great way fixing an issue that the game has had for a long time. So stop sucking up the devs and SQ and demand change.

It's objectively and empirically better than the old system.
That doesn't mean it's perfect, it doesn't mean there aren't still massive issues with the housing system, but it is objectively better than it used to be.

[Midareyukki]

30 more wards would definitely make a difference, but you wouldn't even need to go back to first come first serve with that many new houses.

(...)

It's not that this system was broken form the start, it just wasn't future-proofed for such a rapid increase in players.

Pretty much this.

We can add as many wards as we want. That's still 30 more wards that will fill up in an instant because of just how much demand there is for it.

I blame the devs' insistence on wards and a sense of community within housing districts like they were "neighbourhoods". Sorry Yoshida, but that's just not going to happen. It rarely ever happens; most people just stick to their house and don't socialize. My FC's ward is full. And it was full since it was meant to be an FC-only ward. You want to know how many people I see around the place? NONE. The ward is always bleeding empty! And whenever I happen to somehow catch one person out there, there's no interaction. Nothing. And that's how it's always been on Zodiark since 2016. Rarely ever do you actually interact, and at most it's just "hi" and move on with your business.

Because these wards force a limit on how many houses are available. And while I know there are detriments to instanced housing, the way this is made just breeds salt.

Listen ass I'm just venting in an online forum. I'm allowed to vent so go f off. Most ppl don't like this system and want a better one. I also feel that way. It's still an unfair system that heavily relays on luck and rng to get anything. Some of yall act like this system is the best system when its not. It's just as bad as the placard. Replacing a bad system with another bad system isnt a great way fixing an issue that the game has had for a long time. So stop sucking up the devs and SQ and demand change.

...sorry but, you were the one who started being snide after Seraphor mentioned they managed to have a house before you did. He didn't insult you. You called him "ass".

Venting is one thing. Another thing is being caustic. Which is exactly what you're doing. They mentioned you were simply complaining about life being unfair, yes? Well, you're proving them right.

And as someone who has been around in the old system, you do not want it back at all. Because you think waiting hours to see whether you won an RNG raffle is bad? Try "first come first serve" for hours on end with no discernible time limit against a horde of people botting.

It wasn't healthy.

This system isn't perfect, no. But unless you can come up with better ideas than the absolute proven delusion that "the old one was better", you aren't contributing whatsoever to fixing the problem with it.

I have a large that I hate and going to give it up bc I'm tired of living there. Call me to entitle all you want but if you lived in a area you not happy with you be the same way as me. Go back to you damn ishgrad house and leave me alone.

No, you're acting entitled. Sorry to say this, but you are. You're acting entitled about owning houses and now you're even acting entitled about acting entitled.

[Zebraoracle]

No?
I entered the lottery for an Ishgard house when they were first released, because I've been wanting a house in Ishgard for years, and lost a three-way lottery against 2 other bidders.
Oh, damn, nevermind, try again next week.

Now I have an Ishgard house.

Just convert your "hours of clicking" energy into patience. The lottery happens every 9 days. If you're getting 1 other bidder every time, your 50/50 chance is going to turn into a win soon enough.

I don't disagree with you entirely, but it's a little odd to say just try again next week and "if you're getting one other bidder every time". Supply is going to dry up, there will inherently be more bidders on each available house each round because less houses will be available. It just gets harder as time goes on just due to supply being nowhere near the demand.

[Seraphor]

I don't disagree with you entirely, but it's a little odd to say just try again next week and "if you're getting one other bidder every time". Supply is going to dry up, there will inherently be more bidders on each available house each round because less houses will be available. It just gets harder as time goes on just due to supply being nowhere near the demand.

Not now that housing demolition is back on.

A load of houses were freed up a couple weeks earlier as well due to the first round of demolition timers expiring.

There are now 5 free plots in my ward alone, either through demolition or relocation, which will be up for bidding in a couple of days.