Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
I'm not sure if you know what AOE means... but AOE rampart is indeed the biggest hate puller.. and no... WAR doesn't have that
I know what AoE means, and even if AoE Rampart generates more hate due to more people getting hit by it, it doesn't change the fact that it's not even nearly the biggest hate puller...not even close...a stupid Provoke generates more hate then Rampart, so does Flash, so does our Enmity Combo...so does almost anything hate related in the game...

Simple test. Group of mobs...let a BLM Firaga or Flare them. Use Rampart, you won't even get yellow on them. Use Provoke/Flash and it goes yellow, using both it goes red.

Now the best part about this. On WAR use Collusion on the BLM before he uses Firaga/Flare...all mobs blinking red for you...what's better?

And just to counter the stupid arguments that you won't Collusion a BLM mid fight...yeah we won't cause he's out of range for us to get the hate effect, since your target needs to be close to you.

Idk how others do it, but whoever is MNK in my group, I annoucne Collusion CD is gonna be up in a few seconds, MNK replies with whenever he is ready for his Dragon Kick combo and right before Blindside Dragon Kick I use Collusion on him. This alone is worth more then 4 Ramparts used in a row...

Nobody ever denied that PLD get's his shit done as well...the fact is that WAR get's it done better in each and every single part of being a tank.