Paladin Updates

[Takinagi]

I'm pretty sure the people who say PLD is decent never played it outside of exp/ifrit parties. The only people who should be commenting on PLD's performance are endgame players who have actually tested both WAR and PLD. I mean this is what everyone is upset over right?

[Alerith]

I'm pretty sure the people who say PLD is decent never played it outside of exp/ifrit parties. The only people who should be commenting on PLD's performance are endgame players who have actually tested both WAR and PLD. I mean this is what everyone is upset over right?

Because endgame is the only thing that matters....

[Lux_Rayna]

I'm pretty sure the people who say PLD is decent never played it outside of exp/ifrit parties. The only people who should be commenting on PLD's performance are endgame players who have actually tested both WAR and PLD. I mean this is what everyone is upset over right?

Testing them where? In what settings? With what party setup?

The same party setup for WAR will not work for PLD, as they have completely different abilities/strengths/weaknesses. If you run mana burn with a war tank, then try it with a PLD tank, the war tank will *probably* do infinitely better. Why? Because a PLD needs *support*, and it needs the presence of melee dps. Running mage heavy setups doesn't work well with PLD, because all of its awesome skills wont help at all due to mages being out of aoe range.

Imagine a PLD, with BRD support, 2 Melee DPS, and some range heals/dps. BRD comes in to apply buffs, PLD does aoe rampart on every trip he can, which would hit the brd and both melee dps for really nice enmity gain. Divine Veil is infinitely more useful since it stacks with WHM regen, which now gives all of your melees a *lot* more survivability. This means the WHM has to concentrate on less ppl, and it also means the PLD can maintain a very high enmity level from all the cures/regens/aoe rampart spams.

What ppl fail to understand is that PLD makes other melees better. If you just use a bunch of mages, you are wasting all of the PLD's talents. PLD was balanced around a diverse group, not class stacking. Yet I wonder how many ppl actually test it this way. Give that PLD bard support, add in more melee DD's, and then tell me PLD sucks at tanking.

[GreyJorildyn]

Yeah... except no one is saying PLD SUCKS at tanking. They're just saying WAR is better as far as I can tell, which is true. They're also only talking about it in terms of end game, which is where it matters.

[Takinagi]

Don't be mad because we are right and you don't know what the hell you are talking about

[Takinagi]

Because endgame is the only thing that matters....

Endgame is where the hardest content in the game is... What is the point of having PLD in the game if it sucks at what it's built for :/ Once again no one cares about your crappy exp parties.

Rayna...You have not even done any of the new content so how would you know what I am talking about. I don't mean to be a bully but really go try kill chimera/miser on PLD and then switch to WAR and hit me up after(with any setup I might add).

[Aion]

This. The only way they will be able to keep their PLD has less HP stupidity and have people actually use it is if they give PLD some passive magic damage mitigation.

this x1000

[KoujiGeki]

true it be nice to have magic def too

[Luhy]

PLD is still useless. Holy Succor needs to become instant-cast like Thundara or they need at least as much HP as WAR or at least as much damage as WAR or they stand no chance. Adding MP to Outmaneuver or something might help too but won't make the difference they need.

[Aceofspades]

Endgame is where the hardest content in the game is... What is the point of having PLD in the game if it sucks at what it's built for :/ Once again no one cares about your crappy exp parties.

Rayna...You have not even done any of the new content so how would you know what I am talking about. I don't mean to be a bully but really go try kill chimera/miser on PLD and then switch to WAR and hit me up after(with any setup I might add).

LMFAO, endgame indeed, the suposed "hardest" fight in the game is on farm mode for most LSs, there is no real challange for a party much less a tank in this game other then uber high lvl mobs. tell ya what, have 2 outa your 8 members do absoulutly nothing in Ifrit, then prioritize what you need, well obviously you need dps strong enough and fast enough to counter Ifrits regen. then you need a tank that can take a substantial amount of damage without dieing. cuz once you fill your roles, you only have one spot left for a healer. Park the propaganda, and hype, WAR is a crowd controller and a sub tank for speed runs on ridiculously easy fights. PLD is way under apreciated simply cuz there isnt a challange out there that will allow PLD to shine, everything is easy sauce. So all this ego can just deflate itself , its nothing but hype from people who THINK they have "endgame" on lock.