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    A good way to tell if a job is too weak is to imagine it in PvP. PLD has no damage, cant cure with a bunch of people on them, has low HP, no damage mitigation aside from Sentinel and frontal attacks and has no reliable "get off me" abilities. It has no place and no purpose that other jobs can't achieve more efficiently. It needs to be important in some way.
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    Alerith Rayneheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luhy View Post
    A good way to tell if a job is too weak is to imagine it in PvP. PLD has no damage, cant cure with a bunch of people on them, has low HP, no damage mitigation aside from Sentinel and frontal attacks and has no reliable "get off me" abilities. It has no place and no purpose that other jobs can't achieve more efficiently. It needs to be important in some way.
    That's actually a horrible way to judge ANY job.

    First of all, you've placed the PLD into a situation where it can't possibly win. NO job in that situation, with multiple people on them, is going to be able to survive something like that. Do you think your WAR is going to kill all the players with Steel Cyclone? Or a BLM is going to stop them all with Flare?

    Also, PvP is an absolutely horrible way to judge a job's usefulness outside of PvP, and I'm going to use FFXI as a means of illustrating that:

    In FFXI, PLD is one of the most unneeded and undesired jobs for most content. But it's one of the best PvP jobs you can use. Ninja, arguably, has far more utility than PLD in many cases, and a PLD can wipe the floor with a NIN in PvP. (No disrespect to the NIN job.)

    Does the PLD's ability to shine in PvP make it more practical for PvE play? Absolutely not.

    TL;DR: Your example is flawed.

    Also:

    Quote Originally Posted by TirionCrey View Post
    Nobody ever denied that PLD get's his shit done as well...the fact is that WAR get's it done better in each and every single part of being a tank.
    This a thousand times over.

    I will defend PLD until the sky falls. (See what I did there?)

    The fact remains that WAR does it better, but PLD is still capable of doing it.
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    Last edited by Alerith; 03-28-2012 at 08:58 PM.