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    Zanarkand-Ronso's Avatar
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    The risk is there but it may not be the risk that some are hoping to see.
    See thats the funny thing, people want these "Risks" and for the game to do new refreshing things.
    But then they get exactly what they asked for, and they dont like it, saying it should be like everything else.

    People wanted Bluemage, they got what they asked for...and they tried to be creative and take a risk on it so that they could retain its identity in the series, and create new content around it.....and people wanna say Bluemage should have just been a regular job. So, thats less incentive to take risks and try new things, when the community says they should just make it work like everything else....and then complain later again that FFXIV isnt taking risks and trying new things.

    So then it become an issue of.....do people even know what they want?
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    Atelier-Bagur's Avatar
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    See thats the funny thing, people want these "Risks" and for the game to do new refreshing things.
    But then they get exactly what they asked for, and they dont like it, saying it should be like everything else.

    People wanted Bluemage, they got what they asked for...and they tried to be creative and take a risk on it so that they could retain its identity in the series, and create new content around it.....and people wanna say Bluemage should have just been a regular job. So, thats less incentive to take risks and try new things, when the community says they should just make it work like everything else....and then complain later again that FFXIV isnt taking risks and trying new things.

    So then it become an issue of.....do people even know what they want?
    A great man once said "You think you do, but you dont"
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    Jojoya's Avatar
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    So then it become an issue of.....do people even know what they want?
    Some people do know what they want but they can be bad at expressing it.

    Ishgard housing is a perfect example. Many players were going "Ishgard housing when, SE?" for years. Finally it gets teased in the Shadowbringers announcements via the Restoration. The Restoration gets underway for players to see what the Firmament looks like and some of those players go "wait, this is going to be the Ishgard housing? This isn't what we wanted. We wanted Sea of Clouds (or Coerthas Highlands, or Dravanian Hinterlands, etc.)."

    Yet SE gave them exactly what they asked for - housing in Ishgard

    Then there's the issue of players know what they personally want. What they personally want is not the exact same thing as the next player.

    Blue Mage. Viera/Hrothgar. Island Sanctuary. Variant/Criterion dungeons. All of them have some players that are happy with what SE designed and some that aren't. All think their personal vision should have had priority.

    The player base is not a hive mind. Why do people keep expecting it to act like one?

    Quote Originally Posted by midnitdragoon View Post
    Limited jobs are dumb
    Which is only your opinion. You want more "regular" jobs that can be played in any content.

    Other players are happy with limited jobs because it lets them do outrageous things that wouldn't be allowed in normal group content and they're under less pressure to keep up with others.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 10-24-2022 at 03:36 AM.

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    Chadhadai Oronir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    The player base is not a hive mind. Why do people keep expecting it to act like one?
    For some reason, especially in the housing forum, it's really common for people to treat the community like a monolith. "This [lottery housing] is what you asked for!" and then when dozens of people comment saying "I never asked for this," they get all surprised at like, this nuanced idea that some people wanted something but other people didn't.
    Also, just rambling for the hell of it now, but the people I knew who wanted Ishgard housing talked it up (to me/around me personally; i can only speak for that limited group) as being possibly a snowy mountain village sort of thing. When it came out and it was just in that bleak grey-lit district, they were disappointed because it wasn't the snowglobe town they had in their head. But they were still fine with more housing in general, until they learned how the actual lottery process would work. I don't think anyone who asked for a lottery system envisioned one like this in their heads, but it was still a bad idea with a limited time of effectiveness regardless.
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