Increase weekly tome cap, decrease token amount

[Atelier-Bagur]

It's the classic Yoshi-P moment of "you can unsubscribe and take breaks" but when you look at how timegated any progression is, the actual number of resets in an expansion you can't play for is actually very low. That is part of the business case of making a subscription MMORPG but it's kinda frustrating for to get full tomestone gear for one job, and then upgrading to savage equivalent item level once the alliance raid comes out, you have to play every week for almost an entire patch cycle.

I'd argue it's also a really prominent example of the game not being alt friendly. Want to maintain a character for another region (until we get DC travel across regions)? No catch up, full investment. Want to maintain multiple jobs that are well geared but don't share equipment type? You're out of luck. Now you could say some of this isn't necessary and HQ crafted gear is fine... but the choice of gear should still be there and gearing up really doesn't need to take this long.

I would also support for lower prices for gear so that people can maintain their other jobs but at the end of the day it's all just numbers. You don't REALLY need to have the bis for everything in order to do the content

[Johners]

I would also support for lower prices for gear so that people can maintain their other jobs but at the end of the day it's all just numbers. You don't REALLY need to have the bis for everything in order to do the content

You don't NEED best-in-slot and/or highest item level but people LIKE doing it. The game wouldn't suffer if the tomestone cap was doubled to 900 after the first two months of a tier rather than waiting for the alliance raid to launch mid-tier.

[Deveryn]

You don't NEED best-in-slot and/or highest item level but people LIKE doing it. The game wouldn't suffer if the tomestone cap was doubled to 900 after the first two months of a tier rather than waiting for the alliance raid to launch mid-tier.

There would be even more complaints every time that cap went back down to 450. It doesn't seem worthwhile to fuss with the cap every other cycle and give people more reasons to be annoyed.

[ty_taurus]

There would be even more complaints every time that cap went back down to 450. It doesn't seem worthwhile to fuss with the cap every other cycle and give people more reasons to be annoyed.

Rational players would not complain if the developers came out saying "hey, what we're going to do from this point onward is increase the tomestone cap after x weeks each time a new tier of gear is introduced." There will always be irrational players who will complain about things that don't matter. There are 7 players who don't use AoEs in dungeons and we have an entire thread dedicated to it as if it were some kind of game-destroying plague.

[Liam_Harper]

You don't REALLY need to have the bis for everything in order to do the content

You don't really need to do the content.

The argument here is they want to keep us playing. We need a carrot to chase. I don't care if my alt can technically do Savage reclears and doesn't "need" bis, it just feels bad going from a 630 main to a 610 and knowing you'll contribute less to the group. It's not fun and I don't really want to do that. However, I'm also not so desperate to play my alt at BiS level that I'll happily spend over 2 months waiting for tomes and Savage books. I'll just give up do something else until next patch. Thus the system is failing its intended purpose of keeping the raiders playing and instead makes them quit after they've cleared the tier.

[AwesomeJr44]

SE is a small indie company, so they need to make this content last as long as possible as they can only make a small amount of content per month. How dare you want to not have to grind for weeks on end for one piece of gear if you're unlucky!?

[Deveryn]

SE is a small indie company, so they need to make this content last as long as possible as they can only make a small amount of content per month. How dare you want to not have to grind for weeks on end for one piece of gear if you're unlucky!?

They're always hiring. Go work for them and make it better.

[AwesomeJr44]

They're always hiring. Go work for them and make it better.

Sure, let me just uproot my entire life, learn an entire new language, and move to the literal other side of the planet because I don't like how a company handles their product. Do you hear how ridiculous you sound? That excuse was idiotic the first time someone said it and it is now.

You also assume that I would be allowed to make the changes needed to fix the underlying issues the game has, which I would most certainly not. That would cost money and time, and to the higher ups at SE, FFXIV's only purpose is to be a cash cow for SE to milk money out of so they can funnel it into other projects. Good luck getting them to put some much needed revenue back into the game.

really it's not just that, there simply needs to be at least some form of timegating on some stuff or everyone complains they got nothing to do after 2 days (see island sanctuary.

It's not a timegate existing that's the issue, it's how long the timegate is. In extreme cases, it can take you 16 weeks (an entire major patch cycle assuming you clear week 1) to get BiS from books if your luck is terrible. That's obviously not anywhere close to the average player's experience, but that shouldn't even be a possibility. And that's not even considering people who want to gear multiple roles, which only makes it take even longer. For a game that has the ability to play multiple jobs, it really punishes you for wanting to play multiple types of jobs. It shouldn't take that long to get gear, but SE makes it take that long because there's an unnecessarily long amount of time between major content drops.

[Deveryn]

Sure, let me just uproot my entire life, learn an entire new language, and move to the literal other side of the planet because I don't like how a company handles their product. Do you hear how ridiculous you sound? That excuse was idiotic the first time someone said it and it is now.

You also assume that I would be allowed to make the changes needed to fix the underlying issues the game has, which I would most certainly not. That would cost money and time, and to the higher ups at SE, FFXIV's only purpose is to be a cash cow for SE to milk money out of so they can funnel it into other projects. Good luck getting them to put some much needed revenue back into the game.

I'm just following your lead on making outrageous statements. If you want to be ignorant to the very real limitations that exist, then you can expect responses like mine.

[AwesomeJr44]

I'm just following your lead on making outrageous statements.

I tell people the uncomfortable truth that they don't want to hear, even if it's unpopular to do so. You tell people to move across the planet if they don't like how a company handles their product. If you were genuinely following my example at any point, you have gone astray.

If you want to be ignorant to the very real limitations that exist, then you can expect responses like mine.

There are very real and genuine reasons why the very basic things you want can't be implemented. Please understand. /s