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    Quote Originally Posted by aodhan_ofinnegain View Post
    Tbh, you're probably wasting your time trying to explain this, it's been said countless times already, and still people regurgitate the same bull about Bloodwhetting is too strong, as a means to prevent WAR get a potency buff, like dungeons even matter lmao
    Why shouldn't dungeons matter? They're the content everyone does and the majority of ppl keep doing. It's not like the first duty people run into is 8-man stuff when a new expansion comes out. More ppl do dungeons than savage raids, so it makes more sense to balance things around dungeons. No one's gonna keep playing a job to the point they can take it to savage if it can't perform well in dungeons.
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    Last edited by HyonaCookie; 09-21-2022 at 11:25 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyonaCookie View Post
    Why shouldn't dungeons matter? They're the content everyone does and the majority of ppl keep doing. It's not like the first duty people run into is 8-man stuff when a new expansion comes out. More ppl do dungeons than savage raids, so it makes more sense to balance things around dungeons. No one's gonna keep playing a job to the point they can take it to savage if it can't perform well in dungeons.
    It shouldn't matter because dungeons are an absolute joke. Bloodwhetting in dungeons doesn't matter because you don't need it to completely steamroll this content with your brain turned off, Dark Knight/Gunbreaker/Paladin can do it just as easily.

    Jobs are balanced around 8-man high end content because it is the only content where balance actually matters, the only content where not beating it in X amount of time leads to guaranteed failure, where mechanics do just straight up kill you if you do them wrong. They absolutely shouldn't be balanced around content where your performance is literally irrelevant and you can just whack a boss for 20 minutes to win, this includes both normal and alliance raids as well.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 09-22-2022 at 12:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HyonaCookie View Post
    Why shouldn't dungeons matter? They're the content everyone does and the majority of ppl keep doing. It's not like the first duty people run into is 8-man stuff when a new expansion comes out. More ppl do dungeons than savage raids, so it makes more sense to balance things around dungeons. No one's gonna keep playing a job to the point they can take it to savage if it can't perform well in dungeons.
    While answered above quite fairly by Tiana and I agree 100% with them, but also if the devs actually considered dungeon for balance, then every single job would also have at least their first AoE spammable weaponskill /spell before the very first dungeon. But pretty much dungeons are not even remotely difficult, trash is more threatening than the actual bosses...

    So regarding this statement, "No one's gonna keep playing a job to the point they can take it to savage if it can't perform well in dungeons." it is factually incorrect because:

    DRK technically plays the worst in dungeons, more so in the hands of players that haven't a clue how to rotate their cooldowns correctly / efficiently, and will struggle, while the other three tanks are easier to manage, yet in Savage DRK is an absolute beast strongest damage mitigating tank, and strongest DPSing tank.

    On the flip side, PLD and WAR are super strong in dungeons, especially compared to DRK, yet both jobs were recently excluded from the latest raid tier in PFs for p8s.

    So you might wanna rethink that one.
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