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[Pomelo]

Speak for yourself, I really like Krile and I'm glad she's finally getting some character development and screen time.

The whole not liking Krile because she doesn't do anything is precisely why she should be given more to do, develop the existing secondary cast that we already have rather than constantly adding new characters.

[MagiusNecros]

Ironically Hildibrand has a better story then the actual story as far as I am concerned. Hildibrand is where the real shit is. YoshiP must agree since Hildi is required for relics soon.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Big difference between "We should stick to what worked in the past (aka HW/SHB) as that's why we came to the game all those years ago" and "We should change the game completely to be a slice of life humorfest". One is wanting the game to be the game. The other is wanting the game to be something completely different.

This is the classic fandom invasion cycle. Game/Movie/Show exists. People come in and try to change it. When the original fans protest, they're told to leave. Original fans leave and go to/make a new Game/Movie/Show. People come in and try to change it.

Just let FFXIV be FFXIV. Go watch Marvel if you want low-brow humor and happy vibes all day long.

Nobody is being told to leave (at least not from where Ive looked), quite the opposite; you just told people ""Go watch Marvel if you want low-brow humor and happy vibes all day long."" So...whos the one telling people to leave?
You're still naming the same thing. I see the differences, but they are both the same effect: Change the Game to how I want it.
Thats my point. Not which one is better.

I swear, FFXIV is gonna be the next Marvel or Star Wars soon if they don't stop doing this. It's going to be a series where the creators cater to newer 'fans' (which aren't even real fans) while casting anyone who liked the older 'movies' (in this case, expansions) aside. How long until the writers for FFXIV start calling their real fans bigots ala Rian Johnson style for not getting on board with the new direction?

-_-;
This is some Next Level Boom-Saying.
And just dismissing other Players

This is precisely what I feel has occurred with FFXIV. It is a tragic state of affairs when those of us who mean well are continuously shut down and treated dismissively by these newer "fans" who in any other case would likely not be playing Final Fantasy games at all had this game not catered to them to the extent that did.

Nobody is being shut down for having an Opinion.
But your language here is pretty dismissive of those other peoples opinions.

[CidHeiral]

Not a fan of Krile at all but I'll wait and see.

[AwesomeJr44]

Nobody is being told to leave (at least not from where Ive looked), quite the opposite; you just told people ""Go watch Marvel if you want low-brow humor and happy vibes all day long."" So...whos the one telling people to leave?

Again, one is telling people that if they want Marvel to go watch Marvel, and that FFXIV shouldn't try to be something it isn't. The other is telling people that FFXIV should completely alter itself and be Marvel and if you don't like it, leave because you're not welcome anymore. The former is asking that you don't try and change FFXIV when you could instead consume products that fit what you want better. The latter is coming into a pre-existing community and trying to corrupt it into something completely different because you don't care enough about the game or its community to leave it alone and consume something else. There is a big difference between those. It's not hard to understand unless you don't want to. Let FFXIV be FFXIV. FFXIV is not Marvel.

And whenever someone has a minor critique of the game and makes a thread on it, within two pages they already get comments telling them to leave if they don't like the new direction of the game. (And this is on the Official Forums, a place that is supposedly a negative echo chamber compared to the positive echo chambers that are Reddit and Twitter, so I wonder how bad it must be over there) So yes, we are indeed approaching the 'get out if you don't like what the game has mutated into' stage of the invasion cycle.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Again, one is telling people that if they want Marvel to go watch Marvel, and that FFXIV shouldn't try to be something it isn't. The other is telling people that FFXIV should completely alter itself and be Marvel and if you don't like it, leave because you're not welcome anymore. The former is asking that you don't try and change FFXIV when you could instead consume products that fit what you want better. The latter is coming into a pre-existing community and trying to corrupt it into something completely different because you don't care enough about the game or its community to leave it alone and consume something else. There is a big difference between those. It's not hard to understand unless you don't want to. Let FFXIV be FFXIV. FFXIV is not Marvel.

And whenever someone has a minor critique of the game and makes a thread on it, within two pages they already get comments telling them to leave if they don't like the new direction of the game. (And this is on the Official Forums, a place that is supposedly a negative echo chamber compared to the positive echo chambers that are Reddit and Twitter, so I wonder how bad it must be over there) So yes, we are indeed approaching the 'get out if you don't like what the game has mutated into' stage of the invasion cycle.

An Echo Chamber is an Echo Chamber....Telling People you prefer the game to be one way...are the same thing on both sides.
Doesnt matter if you think its right or not, or think either side is better. Its the same thing. Both sides are doing the same thing.

But good point, FFXIV is not Marvel...so dont compare it to Marvel. If I want Marvel, Ill go watch marvel. This is FFXIV, I am Playing and Enjoying FFXIV.
Goofiness and Light Heartiness existed before and without Marvel, FFXIV having some Goofiness doesnt mean its becoming Marvel XD

[Neoyoshi]

I have no idea why you want to change FFXIV from its origins as a balanced high fantasy story into that. There are other games that suit those specific tastes better than this one ever could.

Relax, no one is taking your edge away, i promise, i think?

I mean... you have to know i have no control over that, right?

[SassyAssassin]

Seriously, did ANY of the scions actually get put in genuine danger at ANY point other than the obvious fake out in UT?

So much this. I couldn’t get emotional at those scenes because it was so clear all of them will return.

[AwesomeJr44]

An Echo Chamber is an Echo Chamber....Telling People you prefer the game to be one way...are the same thing on both sides.
Doesnt matter if you think its right or not, or think either side is better. Its the same thing. Both sides are doing the same thing.

Wanting the game to be what it was made to be and wanting the game to be radically different from what is was are not the same.

I came to FFXIV way back when because I wanted a good serious story with compelling characters. And we got that all the way up until Endwalker launched as that was what the game was built upon. A good and serious story with fantastic characters. Emet-Selch is probably my favorite fictional character of all time, with a few other FFXIV characters taking the spots directly after. FFXIV was where to go if you wanted an MMO with that kind of story, thus I came to FFXIV for that. This is what FFXIV is supposed to be. This is what is was MADE to be.

Now, players from other MMOs are invading the game's community and demanding radical changes to the game's tones and storytelling. They arrived, didn't like what FFXIV was and demanded that it be something completely different. Where are the fans of FFXIV supposed to go once FFXIV isn't FFXIV anymore? Well the devs don't care as it's not about the old fans who made the game the success it is. We'll get shoved out the door and forced to either go somewhere else or watch the game we love decay like a rotting corpse. And when FFXIV's playerbase starts to decline, these people will follow us wherever we go and do the same thing again and again and again. We can see this happening over and over across media and it's going to happen here unless the devs start catering to their REAL fans, the people who want FFXIV to be FFXIV and for it be pretty damn good at it too.

Personally I'm going to give this game a chance and wait until 7.0 to make a decision on whether to stay or leave, just out of respect for the past 9 or so years (and perhaps from hopium that the devs will wake up), but I wouldn't fault anyone for quitting after 6.0.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Wanting the game to be what it was made to be and wanting the game to be radically different from what is was are not the same.

I came to FFXIV way back when because I wanted a good serious story with compelling characters. And we got that all the way up until Endwalker launched as that was what the game was built upon. A good and serious story with fantastic characters. Emet-Selch is probably my favorite fictional character of all time, with a few other FFXIV characters taking the spots directly after. FFXIV was where to go if you wanted an MMO with that kind of story, thus I came to FFXIV for that. This is what FFXIV is supposed to be. This is what is was MADE to be.

Now, players from other MMOs are invading the game's community and demanding radical changes to the game's tones and storytelling. They arrived, didn't like what FFXIV was and demanded that it be something completely different. Where are the fans of FFXIV supposed to go once FFXIV isn't FFXIV anymore? Well the devs don't care as it's not about the old fans who made the game the success it is. We'll get shoved out the door and forced to either go somewhere else or watch the game we love decay like a rotting corpse. And when FFXIV's playerbase starts to decline, these people will follow us wherever we go and do the same thing again and again and again. We can see this happening over and over across media and it's going to happen here unless the devs start catering to their REAL fans, the people who want FFXIV to be FFXIV and for it be pretty damn good at it too.

Personally I'm going to give this game a chance and wait until 7.0 to make a decision on whether to stay or leave, just out of respect for the past 9 or so years (and perhaps from hopium that the devs will wake up), but I wouldn't fault anyone for quitting after 6.0.

Welcome to Business...sad reality. Its their game, we just play it. But everyone is of the same mind, we want the game to be good and fun.
Not everyone will be happy and the game will never be perfect, thats just impossible.
If you or anybody doesnt like its Direction, sometimes voting with your wallet is the most effective eye opener.
You can rave and complain on the forums forever about what you personally dont like, but the Metric Data speaks bigger volumes.
Never be afraid or discouraged to speak your mind, I may disagree with you Lot on things, but I will Never tell you to be Silent about it.