Do people on these forums only complain endlessly?

[SturmChurro]

I wouldn't wish that on them.

I think a lot of the issues in terms of complaints could especially be alleviated by a well written post or response by a community rep, of course it can also have the opposite effect at times. It's just the fact that the community thinks they are being heard, and even being interacted with.

[Lauront]

I wouldn't wish that on them.

I wouldn't wish the Twitter community on them but there you go.

[Theodric]

I wouldn't wish that on them.

I'm not sure why? Say what you will about this place but it isn't host to people's extreme fetishes posted for everybody to see or videos of people being brutally murdered. Furthermore the simple fact that people's accounts here are linked between the forum and the game means that harassment doesn't go nearly as far as it does on other platforms. Or shall I tell you about the many times I've seen people harass and stalk people over on Twitter or Reddit for something as innocent as listing a Garlean as their favourite character or saying they don't really care for Hildibrand's particular style of humour?

I think what's interesting is that, more often than not, the very same posters who desperately try to portray this place as entirely unreasonable not only continue to post here despite that apparent view but generally have a post history largely consisting of not so subtle efforts to stifle feedback.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

FFIX did not glorify suffering or use humor in such a heavy handed and inappropriate way and I am shocked that there people who would compare it to FFXIV. In any case, I suppose that the more time passes and the game loses us more serious fantasy fans the more the reddit, twitter, and other sites will come to be populated by these new players who don't seem to want or care for a story that actually balances levity and seriousness.

I cannot recommend Endwalker to those of us who liked stories like FFIX, FFX, Dragon Age Origins, Elden Ring, so on. This expansion did not respect the game world nor its characters and upended 10 years worth of lore and storytelling to tell a story which fell apart in too many peoples eyes compared to even the likes of Stormblood, which at least didn't push its message in a way that was as badly received as Endwalker's.

Here you go again speaking for "many people"

I loved Elden ring, I got the platinum . I also really liked endwalker.

And I find it hilarious you mention ffx. That game had a ton of silly, cringy moments.

[aveyond-dreams]

I think what's interesting is that, more often than not, the very same posters who desperately try to portray this place as entirely unreasonable not only continue to post here despite that apparent view but generally have a post history largely consisting of not so subtle efforts to stifle feedback.

Generally speaking it seems like there's a handful of people who equate asking for improvements to either be asking too much of the devs (regardless of whatever standard in the mmorpg genre has been established in other games) or in terms of the story that people either didn't pay attention or are simply too serious to appreciate the direction Endwalker took.

Holding a productive conversation is difficult when those individuals appear because it usually goes something like:

"I'd like for Blue Mage to be non-limited"

"Well *I'm* ok with it and so are so many others (source?) so you need to get over that it's not changing"

"I'd like for Viera to have more hairs"

"It takes time and effort to make those hairstyles you shouldn't ask them to overwork themselves"

It's just so exhausting.

Here you go again speaking for "many people"

I loved Elden ring, I got the platinum . I also really liked endwalker.

And I find it hilarious you mention ffx. That game had a ton of silly, cringy moments.

Yeah, at the start when things weren't nearly as intense as they got towards the end when the game us kill our aeons one by one and then killed off the main protagonist. Stop with the false comparisons.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Generally speaking it seems like there's a handful of people who equate asking for improvements to either be asking too much of the devs (regardless of whatever standard in the mmorpg genre has been established in other games) or in terms of the story that people either didn't pay attention or are simply too serious to appreciate the direction Endwalker took.

Holding a productive conversation is difficult when those individuals appear because it usually goes something like:

"I'd like for Blue Mage to be non-limited"

"Well *I'm* ok with it and so are so many others (source?) so you need to get over that it's not changing"

"I'd like for Viera to have more hairs"

"It takes time and effort to make those hairstyles you shouldn't ask them to overwork themselves"

It's just so exhausting.



Yeah, at the start when things weren't nearly as intense as they got towards the end when the game us kill our aeons one by one and then killed off the main protagonist. Stop with the false comparisons.

He never died. Sorry.

[aveyond-dreams]

He never died. Sorry.

FFX-2 did not immediately follow FFX, the epilogue scene is open to interpretation. Unlike the Scions at least Tidus grew enough over the course of his journey to warrant bringing him back, especially because his sacrifice wasn't immediately undone. We already had this conversation. Stop comparing the games that respected their worlds and storylines better to Endwalker.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

FFX-2 did not immediately follow FFX, the epilogue scene is open to interpretation. Unlike the Scions at least Tidus grew enough over the course of his journey to warrant bringing him back, especially because his sacrifice wasn't immediately undone. We already had this conversation. Stop comparing the games that respected their worlds and storylines better to Endwalker.

I like how you completely ignored the part of my comment on how I liked Elden ring btw. Like, it goes against your narrative so....

And endwalker still respects its game world. It just doesn't respect your head cannon and fanfiction.

[Deveryn]

There he goes hijacking the thread as his podium...


As for my last comment, clearly there's a misunderstanding. I can't be bothered to try and clear it up.

[aveyond-dreams]

I like how you completely ignored the part of my comment on how I liked Elden ring btw. Like, it goes against your narrative so....

And endwalker still respects its game world. It just doesn't respect your head cannon and fanfiction.

20 minutes on Zodiark and then an hour on Loporrits isn't what I would call respectful to the game's world and lore. Glad you liked Elden Ring. Perhaps if Endwalker respected its setting as much as that game did then both of us would've been able to hold it in high regard.