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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    He never died. Sorry.
    FFX-2 did not immediately follow FFX, the epilogue scene is open to interpretation. Unlike the Scions at least Tidus grew enough over the course of his journey to warrant bringing him back, especially because his sacrifice wasn't immediately undone. We already had this conversation. Stop comparing the games that respected their worlds and storylines better to Endwalker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    FFX-2 did not immediately follow FFX, the epilogue scene is open to interpretation. Unlike the Scions at least Tidus grew enough over the course of his journey to warrant bringing him back, especially because his sacrifice wasn't immediately undone. We already had this conversation. Stop comparing the games that respected their worlds and storylines better to Endwalker.
    I like how you completely ignored the part of my comment on how I liked Elden ring btw. Like, it goes against your narrative so....

    And endwalker still respects its game world. It just doesn't respect your head cannon and fanfiction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I like how you completely ignored the part of my comment on how I liked Elden ring btw. Like, it goes against your narrative so....

    And endwalker still respects its game world. It just doesn't respect your head cannon and fanfiction.
    20 minutes on Zodiark and then an hour on Loporrits isn't what I would call respectful to the game's world and lore. Glad you liked Elden Ring. Perhaps if Endwalker respected its setting as much as that game did then both of us would've been able to hold it in high regard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    20 minutes on Zodiark and then an hour on Loporrits isn't what I would call respectful to the game's world and lore. Glad you liked Elden Ring. Perhaps if Endwalker respected its setting as much as that game did then both of us would've been able to hold it in high regard.
    It wasn't 20 minutes on zodiark....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    It wasn't 20 minutes on zodiark....
    Except it quite literally was. We showed up, Fandaniel possessed him, we fought him and then straight to the rabbits we went. 10 years of buildup lead to nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Except it quite literally was. We showed up, Fandaniel possessed him, we fought him and then straight to the rabbits we went. 10 years of buildup lead to nothing.
    In your opinion I guess. I never thought zodiark was going to be the big baddie. Especially after shadowbringers. Him just being a primal made that evident.

    Primals strength comes from belief, and only a few ascians were left who believed in him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    In your opinion I guess. I never thought zodiark was going to be the big baddie. Especially after shadowbringers. Him just being a primal made that evident.

    Primals strength comes from belief, and only a few ascians were left who believed in him.
    To the first point, a lot of the people wanting to see more of Zodiark weren't expecting him to be the 'big bad' either. He was summoned for the sake of salvation for the Ancients and the protection of Etheirys, after all.

    To the second point, Elder Primals differ from regular Primals in the sense that once they're summoned they don't need to absorb aether or prayers from their surroundings.

    At any rate, the game is host to more than just fans of the Scions so I don't think it's unreasonable to expect the game to have spent a little more time on exploring the sheer gravity of putting an end to the hopes and dreams of an entire civilisation.

    For context, imagine if the game went straight to the Lopporits after the Warrior of Light returned to Vesper Bay after Livia's attack...or after Zenos' massacre in Rhalgr's Reach?

    It would feel rather tonally inconsistent with what was going on at the time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    It's literally just fanfiction. Lahabrea and the ascians ticket the warriors on the first, no hydaelyn. Lmao. It's so bad.
    Not that I'd expect someone who tries to accuse people of 'misogyny' if they dislike Venat to have a fair and balanced take on the subject of Zodiark but...the artwork itself is very well drawn and it's a fair and reasonable assumption that the artist in question speaks English as a second language so attacking it on that front is in poor taste.

    It's also realistic to call people out for genocidal rampages even if they benefit you indirectly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Except it quite literally was. We showed up, Fandaniel possessed him, we fought him and then straight to the rabbits we went. 10 years of buildup lead to nothing.
    Yeah, the events that transpired on the moon were disappointing to say the least. The entire story in general just took a strange turn.
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