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    Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
    I've never seen anything to suggest that most models share anything other than modified Midlander bodies, so if you have anything to back that up I'd very much like to see it. A quick glance at the MGP ponytail on a male Midlander vs. a male Viera makes me think that's unlikely though.
    I have no clue what you're getting at, everything other than Lala and Roe bros (and now Hrothgar males) is ultimately traced back to being a modified Middie.
    Femroe and Female Viera are both modified female midlander bodies ... are they the same? Does armor fit them the same? Are they both of the same quality and success? Which looks closer to a midlander, bodyshape wise? Also, I legit gave you a picture of their noggins next to each other, Male Viera are updated and altered Male Miqote bods with Male midlander head and a posture that sits somewhere between them. Female Viera and Hrothgar? We have confirmation many times over that they have unique heads that had to be changed going into 6.0 to make them suitable for shared hair.

    If you wanna ignore that, then you do you.

    It's not about whether or not I like it (I don't, but that's beside the point) but I'm not the only one in this thread that read them as rodent, so it's clearly not just me.
    Oh, you mean the Femroe player who hates the idea of Hrothgals looking like anything other than beefed out linebackers, just barely different from the males? Great company to be in, lol! I legit avoided posting my own hand made fan-art here long ago because of how I've seen people passionate about their steroid girls react to art that doesn't affirm that.
    Like I said, if you read that as rodent, then I think you have a misunderstanding of what rodents look like or a misconception of what lion features are when not placed on a more animalistic head.

    Not that it matters, like I said ... for a race of "lion dudes" only 1 actually clearly looks like a cat.

    Face 2 looks like a Werewolf mostly, some feline hints tho.
    Face 3 could straight up be placed on a demon with wings and it would look right at home. My favorite of the 4 for how demonic and fantastical it looks.
    Face 4? The "Ronso" face for the "FF14 Ronso" race? This is what I see when I look at it because I've never seen a big cat with such a smashed in, downward turned nose.



    This is why I've been sure that "if they made Hrothgals, they wouldn't even bother making them matching cats with the males and would go for something like house cats or small wild breeds" from the start. Outside of having 1 "Ronso" face, they can be w/e beastly vaguely "cat" like thing.

    Which is kinda the point of that whole post. Hrothgar are not Khajiit, they have a mix of human and beast like features in their face. Once you break down all the human and beast traits and place them on a feminine face that's inline with legit every other female in the game (including Femroe), you're gonna get something that looks something like that picture.

    I could show more cat faced examples, but that misses the point entirely ... as they will look far more animal than Hrothgar males do. So regardless of what animal you think it looks like, that's not the point being made.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pip_Chick View Post
    I hope they will do the same with the females. Better faces, better emotes, CUT THE HUNCH! and better walking animations. For me as long as they look like they are part of the same species is all that matters. I said before even a few pages back that the AI-generated art looked good (though the first one with her eyes closed was my personal favourite), but people need to get that it looks uncanny valley, because it is! Ai-generated art is a computer trying to decipher what you meant and recreating it into an art piece. It's not my favourite form of art, simply because of the uncanny valley effect it gives me. But I understood what you meant, trying to point at it and see the feminine features combined with the animal features to result in a more softer feminine look, rather than that of imposing males. Which job it manages to do, throughout the responses people may have called it more of a rat than a lion (which I can see why, but the ears and nose is very much more feline than rodent), but they never confused it for a male, which I think it was your point (you can correct me here), making them look feline, but keeping them feminine through the visual ques. That and for the human eye the emotions and faces of animals are hard to read if not exaggerated, but we can read Hrothgar (due to their human features) and so I hope the females will get the same treatment. Or made to look better and more expressive!
    100% this, spot on.
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    Last edited by reivaxe; 08-30-2022 at 06:45 PM.