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    I'm absolutely amazed that they let Viera wear the Raid Fending/Maiming helmets by hiding the ears. Not sure why they didn't do the same with the crafted gear though...
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    Last edited by Siddiax; 08-23-2022 at 11:16 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siddiax View Post
    I'm absolutely amazed that they let Viera wear the Raid Fending/Maiming helmets by hiding the ears. Not sure why they didn't do the same with the crafted gear though...
    B/c it's a terrible habit for SE to be getting into. I know we're all happy to have Viera/Hroth friendly helmets, but if you're going to cut your ears off then why did you make a Viera and not a Hyur? Sorry, I'll be that one person that's always referred to as, "Even if they did they'll be the one person to complain."

    ---(No longer responding to quote XD)---

    Look, Viera's and Hrothgars have ears, similar to Miqote / Elezen / Lala's. I know it isn't convenient, but they're an extremely recognized race to the franchise at this point. I know the better option is to hide them until a better idea is given later, but we all know later will never happen.

    SE, Please PLEASE pretty please do not get into a habit of cutting the ears off. Give armor ear holes if you don't want to mess with the armor like miqote / elezen, give the option to have ear holes, but please do not let this be the precedent.

    Also, thank you for such a positive patch for Vieras / Hrothgars, I feel hope in seeing the finish line of all addition hair / helmets - hopefully by next expansion <3
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    Last edited by LittleArrow; 08-23-2022 at 11:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belauron View Post
    Did they not get anything again?
    Someone mentioned they got ponytails?
    I'm pretty sure they got stuff. Hairs for sure. a picture of one or two hairs in the patch notes. I haven't seen anything personally, or shared by hrothgars on here though.

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleArrow View Post
    B/c it's a terrible habit for SE to be getting into. I know we're all happy to have Viera/Hroth friendly helmets, but if you're going to cut your ears off then why did you make a Viera and not a Hyur? Sorry, I'll be that one person that's always referred to as, "Even if they did they'll be the one person to complain."
    Agreed. While it's nice if viera can use those helmets, this shouldn't be an acceptable practice. It's why I heavily dislike reaper, for example. I have been vehemently against racial features being removed - especially as an easy way of doing something - for races. Not just viera or hrothgar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleArrow View Post
    if you're going to cut your ears off then why did you make a Viera and not a Hyur?
    Because there's more to the race than their ears.

    I just hate that I'm not able to display a certain piece of equipment on my character because SE randomly decided so. Let the ears clip, hide them, whatever, I just want to be able to actually see a helmet/hat on my head.

    I also don't see any logic in entirely hiding a headpiece when you can already do that yourself. If someone doesn't like that it hides their ears, or lets them clip, that's their issue.
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    Last edited by Siddiax; 08-24-2022 at 12:02 AM.
    Glamour without restrictions* is long overdue!
    If you think so too, help keep the thread going!

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/455359-We-really-should-be-able-to-glamour-other-jobs-sets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siddiax View Post
    Because there's more to the race than their ears.
    I completely disagree. SE has a nasty habit of making races that are just humans with ears of who knows what. The only real race is Hrothgar. Otherwise, remove the ears and tail (if any) and everyone turns into Hyur.

    I want my ears. I'm not satisfied with a job poorly done like that, no.
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    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamantini View Post
    I completely disagree. SE has a nasty habit of making races that are just humans with ears of who knows what. The only real race is Hrothgar. Otherwise, remove the ears and tail (if any) and everyone turns into Hyur.

    I want my ears. I'm not satisfied with a job poorly done like that, no.
    People didn't accept hrothgar hairs with no ears, so hrothgar got ears, and quickly too considering. People accept this? Viera might get some headgear, but good luck with ever having ears with them ever again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    People didn't accept hrothgar hairs with no ears, so hrothgar got ears, and quickly too considering. People accept this? Viera might get some headgear, but good luck with ever having ears with them ever again.
    well, at least they can't say that I won't try
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    People didn't accept hrothgar hairs with no ears, so hrothgar got ears, and quickly too considering. People accept this? Viera might get some headgear, but good luck with ever having ears with them ever again.
    That would still be preferred to having no headgear, since I could just remove the headgear to get my ears back.
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    Imo these are not comparable problems. Viera aren't earless with new hairstyles and never needed to Fantasia just to change between a couple existing styles, they got a big update today with some unexpected things. This is a niche scenario in which people who play Viera should have the option to choose if they'll tolerate having their ears covered or not. I would rather have the choice than the choice be made for me by revoking all visibility of a piece of gear. People who want helmets should have the ability to use them even if it offers some compromises and I don't think it's fair to suggest that we have to take all or nothing. We all probably prioritize different things. For you headgear might be a big deal but to me it isn't. I'm heavily in the camp that cares about hair but could live without most headgear and not notice or experience any FOMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamantini View Post
    I completely disagree. SE has a nasty habit of making races that are just humans with ears of who knows what. The only real race is Hrothgar. Otherwise, remove the ears and tail (if any) and everyone turns into Hyur.

    I want my ears. I'm not satisfied with a job poorly done like that, no.
    So what do you propose then ? Should they just cut out holes on every full plate helmet ? It really doesn't look good on heavy armor.
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    Glamour without restrictions* is long overdue!
    If you think so too, help keep the thread going!

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/455359-We-really-should-be-able-to-glamour-other-jobs-sets

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