Rescue is Griefing

[SannaR]

I try to pull off a rescue on people who fail at Simon says in Rabanaster. Also I hear it can be used as a nice way to save poor sods that used an LB3 that are now in danger of death due to animation lock.

[Sebazy]

Yeah, rescuing out of the LB3 animation lock is imo the most common decent usage of the ability now.

Personally I've fat fingered it literally once in a dungeon and promptly apologised for it, outside of getting pulled through the middle in Suzaku it's really not that big a deal and outside of friends trolling each other to make farms more fun, I rarely see it getting abused. IMHO you're much more likely to get cleaved because of an oblivious/troll tank than you are get rescued and actually killed because of it.

And frankly, in 99% of content, who even cares if you do get killed, is that that big of a deal? Go look up the sort of clean up operations that used to be required to recover an old Everquest Planes or Vex Thal wipe. That's a death that's a big deal. FFXIV's 'death penalty' is an absolute joke by comparison. A bit like this thread.

[Doki]

Just give me a /rescueoff so I can toggle wether or not I can be rescued

[Azuri]

Just give me a /rescueoff so I can toggle wether or not I can be rescued

I've said this before. This function should absolutely be in the game. It should also disable all incoming healing. You are the only one responsible for your healthbar, afterall.

[Bacent]

I had never a good Rescue, 99% moved my Char into AOE's so that I died. Even if I said at the beginning of a Trial, Raid, Alliance, Dungeon, that I don't want to be Rescued, then Healers do it to 100% on purpose just to mess you up. At this point communication is useless. Why not give Players the ability to disable Rescue?

'I've never had a good one so make it where I can turn it off because that makes all of them bad'.

Communication isn't useless. If you communicate and they go out of your way to bother you with it. Report them and move on. Sorry you had to deal with it.

Sounds like some assumptions happening here though with your 'numbers' you're giving. 'Never had a good rescue 99% moved me into an AoE'. What about the 1% you're not talking about, or are you just saying 99% to make it look like you're not grouping everyone up together? Then you talk about 'healers doing it 100% of the time just to mess you up when you communicate.' You make me have a hard time believing this.


Write their names down and just keep an eye out for them. If it keeps happening with the same people and you've been reporting it, it counts as multiple offenses on them.

Wanting a 'toggle' to make a skill 100% useless is gonna piss off people who actually use it in GOOD ways. I use it in GOOD ways when I'm not goofing around with my fiance and friends.



Also if you want to complain about this. I'll do the opposite kind.

I'm upset that healers DONT try to kill me when I'm asking them to do so, and even offering gil to do it when I'm just a DPS.

[NekoMataMata]

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I don't think I'm perfect or that I don't need help at times, but I've had rescue kill me more times than save me sadly. If anything your response seems like a projection. You seem to think that you are the ultimate healer who can do no wrong.

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Raising someone isn't god moding? You're sacrificing 2000 MP and Swiftcast(sometimes, othertimes just valuable time) to bring someone back who you then have to heal and who then has the weakness status for almost two minutes. That's pretty fair, isn't it?

And no, what happened is they rescued me as we were both running towards the rest of the party. The party wasn't even that far away, and right as I got to the party I was pulled right back to where they had cast rescue. Perhaps they lagged and saw me far behind them, who knows, but considering I was out performing them for the entire fight, they should have kept to themselves. Also I love how you make the assumption that they were already with the party. Honestly, that alone voids the majority of your arguments.

And since you're so confident that mistiming or misjudging a rescue is not abuse, then I assure you, from now on I will report all failed instances of rescue that result in the death of the one being "rescued." We'll find out if it's punishable or not by whether or not the GMs take action.

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And people are sitting here defending the action, while you're sitting here bragging about breaking the rules with it why, exactly?

[NekoMataMata]

I've said this before. This function should absolutely be in the game. It should also disable all incoming healing. You are the only one responsible for your healthbar, afterall.

"I can't play with your character like a ragdoll once every couple minutes, therefore you should not receive any healing from me at all."

Totally logical.

[Semirhage]

DPS Karens pitching a hissy fit about possibly losing one GCD of uptime in a two minute period, dramatically calling it "god moding" and "playing the game for me", "taking control of me like a ragdoll", flinging themselves at their fainting couches because healers have a tool that can assist players in a bad spot.

Touch. Grass. You drama queen.

[Nav_Fae]

This is such a small inconvenience to you, at the loss of a really valuable skill. A lot of people who are rescued (and gripe about it) might THINK they're fine, while being totally unaware of an incoming mechanic.

I've seen rescue used for griefing maybe once. And it was probably an accident.

Like the time I rescued my partner into the chasm going to the frog boss in the Shadowbringers fae dungeon. I thought it would zip him to the other side. Whoops.

Then let me learn the hard way.
Maybe I'm just greeding because I know I'll survive and it's just a small inconvenience for the healer that they have to heal me. I can't tell you how many times I've been rescued because the healer thought they were helping me when all they did was make things worse. Being rescued while melee comboing as a rdm when I know I'll survive the attack feels kind of bad when I have a backflip. The healer doesn't know what I'm planning to do.

[NekoMataMata]

DPS Karens pitching a hissy fit about possibly losing one GCD of uptime in a two minute period, dramatically calling it "god moding" and "playing the game for me", "taking control of me like a ragdoll", flinging themselves at their fainting couches because healers have a tool that can assist players in a bad spot.

Touch. Grass. You drama queen.

"This person said something I don't like, they need to touch grass."

How about you come up with a compelling argument instead of throwing phrases like that or the word karen around? Also I've played more as a healer than any other role. Nice assumptions once again and good job proving that you lack the necessary brain power to put together a logical answer without insulting the other person.