Rescue is Griefing

[Rilifane]

If I'm not on healer and greed hard on something or if the healers seems to be the nervous type, I surecast/ Arm's Lengths the mechanic that they'll most likely panic on. But even though I generally now exactly how much I can greed, it's not the end of the world of the healer yoinks me when I was perfectly fine. One GCD lost, I can live with that.
I rather see a healer trying to use their whole toolkit and aim to use even clunky niche skills with a horrible delay well when I would've been fine over simply removing everything that requires some thought and timing. I'm not my character, touch me with Rescue all you like. I approve of every healer that is learning to use it even if it fails or was unnecessary.

And if you see people trolling each other, it's more often than not friends queueing together and having a good laugh. If they got indeed trolled by a stranger it's their responsibility to file a report so the person abusing it gets a strike/ ban but no reason to remove a tool just because someone abused it. Assuming that every death by Rescue was a malicious troll that wanted to annoy strangers just because it suits your argument and you couldn't handle a less than one GCD control loss of your character is quite frankly laughable and negative bias.

[HyoMinPark]

And if you see people trolling each other, it's more often than not friends queueing together and having a good laugh.

Can confirm this is a thing. I have two friends that enjoy Rescuing each other into AOEs or off the edges in content. I usually go as the second healer so no random healer is having to deal with raising both of them after they’ve had their laughs; but this is something that happens.

[axetastic]

Can confirm this is a thing. I have two friends that enjoy Rescuing each other into AOEs or off the edges in content. I usually go as the second healer so no random healer is having to deal with raising both of them after they’ve had their laughs; but this is something that happens.

My partner does this to me in Syrcus tower. Rescue into the rings where the Wrights on second boss will freeze you. Anything to make that raid a little funnier.

[ICountFrom0]

If you are seeing something misused for griefing, I have only one question:

Did you report it?

Yes? Good, let them handle it, move on. You have improved the world.
No? Report the next one. Not reporting them just encourages them. Folks get away with it, they think it's okay to keep doing it, and eventually move on to doing worse things.

[DiaDeem]

I've been thanked for rescuing people away from danger.

People used to spam Holy in Rev Toll in 2013 at the Tomestone shop. People that wanna grief will do it, with or without Rescue or Holy.

[Ransu]

When revealed in 2017 everybody said it'd be used for griefing.

It was griefing in Stormblood. It was griefing in Shadowbringers. And it's still just griefing in Endwalker.

Even in rare cases where Rescue has a real use, like rescuing dive3 into the stack in UCOB, it still ends up griefing because half the time the healer Rescues early, pulling the divebomb into the group. And for what? For nothing. Not only can you now skip divebombs entirely, you don't need 8 people for that stack.

The ability shouldn't exist if its only use is extremely niche in high-end content that the majority of players won't ever touch.

If you think you need Rescue because another player keeps standing in AoEs constantly, realize that same player could be casting Rescue on you. There is no skill check when you cast Rescue. Healers are not automatically better than other players just because their role icon is green.

I'm sick of healers tossing me off ledges, pulling me into AoEs, and ruining my uptime in casual content for no reason. Rescue is negatively impacting my gameplay. I have never had a positive experience with Rescue.

I can't recall a single time I've had rescue used on me in a pug group....If you're getting "griefed" all the time by rescue then maybe the problem is actually you? Sounds like you're causing problems and they are just fed up with you.

[Semirhage]

Healing is griefing. You're basically playing god and determining whether I live or die. No role should be able to play the game for another like that.

Using Addle or Feint is griefing. In those moments, you could determine whether the whole party lives or dies. Nobody should have that kind of influence over someone else's gameplay.

Sometimes I wonder how on earth the healer role got so unbelievably boring in this game, then I get a reminder that the DPS players are hellbent on making sure that healers are *never* allowed to negatively impact them even unintentionally. And then I look at the babyproof healers of current year. And then I see threads raging to make them into even duller curebots. And I get it.

[Bacent]

Like I said, then let us choose if we want to be rescued or not. A simple thing under options.

Yes, make options to disable part of someone's kit.

How about people just do the magic C word and COMMUNICATE??????

It's not hard to use your words in a non aggressive way. I'm not doing that right now cause people act like it can only be used wrong.

But people just wanna go 'wah remove it because I might have over reacted to someone using it on me and trying to help'.

Edit: I typed this out earlier and forgot to hit post when I went to get groceries. Kweheh.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Rescue is not Griefing.
But Trolls like to Grief WITh Rescue.

Rescue is a good and useful skill. But yes, there are people out there that; given the ability, will turn something good, into something bad.
Like some threads in these very forums...good topics, or topics with good intentions...twisted and spun into something bad

[Aneshda]

Yes, make options to disable part of someone's kit.

How about people just do the magic C word and COMMUNICATE??????

It's not hard to use your words in a non aggressive way. I'm not doing that right now cause people act like it can only be used wrong.

But people just wanna go 'wah remove it because I might have over reacted to someone using it on me and trying to help'.

Edit: I typed this out earlier and forgot to hit post when I went to get groceries. Kweheh.

I had never a good Rescue, 99% moved my Char into AOE's so that I died. Even if I said at the beginning of a Trial, Raid, Alliance, Dungeon, that I don't want to be Rescued, then Healers do it to 100% on purpose just to mess you up. At this point communication is useless. Why not give Players the ability to disable Rescue?