To Tanks Who only pull One Mob at a Time......

[NekoMataMata]

And they can only soak the damage with mits and self heals if they pull enemies. It stands to reason that they have to navigate to those enemies first. It's generally accepted that a tank pulls those enemies because if someone else does, the enemies will probably kill them. So we have established that it is the tank's job to navigate to the enemies and that it is also the tank's job to pull them. Saying the tank should ask permission to do their job is like saying a healer should ask permission to heal or that a DPS should ask permission to DPS.

I don't either. I enable timestamps in my chatbox so I can see when the run started and ended.

Permission? That's not what this is about. Soaking damage =/= setting the pace for the dungeon. And every party member has a right to set that pace in a way(but you didn't quote that did you, shame). After all, the Healer should have input for how much of a pull they can handle or want to handle. The DPS should also have an input for the same as if pulls take too long the party will wipe regardless.

Also random note about your comment above, but I'm pretty sure people have been reported before for using single target skills on mobs in end game dungeons because there's very little reason for it and you're mostly likely griefing/trolling.

[Jeeqbit]

No one is the leader and the pace should be set by the party for both reasons, all want to go quick because they are capable and can manage it , and paces should be adjusted if competent players notice their are some weak links , either from inexperience or skill level and there's nothing wrong with players that are a bit slower not all can be hot on the keys/pad . The lazys that zero dps as a healer or no aoe as a dps can sod right off mind.

In 7 years of tanking and almost 10,000 instances I've never met a party that wanted me to go slower. Their body language - emotes, running, jumping repeatedly, continuing to heal or run ahead if I stop, suggest they are content. Even sprout healers never have much of a problem. I've met undergeared sprout healers or healers that struggle to keep up with me, but I survive long enough so it's fine and they don't seem to have a problem.

[Myrany]

In 7 years of tanking and almost 10,000 instances I've never met a party that wanted me to go slower. Their body language - emotes, running, jumping repeatedly, continuing to heal or run ahead if I stop, suggest they are content. Even sprout healers never have much of a problem. I've met undergeared sprout healers or healers that struggle to keep up with me, but I survive long enough so it's fine and they don't seem to have a problem.

One of my best experiences as a new healer came in I think it was the Quarn dungeon (the one with the bees). I ended up healing it as my 2nd dungeon (converted my existing summoner to scholar so started already 60 :P ). I warned the group I was newish at healing. Tank said to me ok we will start with 2 group pulls and see how it goes. A little later he said you wanna try bigger pulls? I said I could try. He said no worries if its to much we back down again. We got through the dungeon with no problems and I will forever remember his kindness.

[Silverbane]

In 7 years of tanking and almost 10,000 instances I've never met a party that wanted me to go slower.

When I'm heals, I'm okay with whatever pace the tank sets ...

.. even when they run out of my range, turn a corner and LoS me, or both, and everyone dies as a result.

It's all part of the fun of Duty Finder, and while I enjoy a good fast W2W pull as much as anyone, I'm not in any hurry. Go slow or wipe fast on the trash mobs, it's fine.

[Bobby66]

This is why I play warrior, I AM THE PARTY.

[game_enjoyer]

Says who?

A tank is there to soak the damage , with mits and self heals


They are 1/4th of a team

Get over yourself

i'll see you at the wall then *uses cooldowns and lives without a healer*

[Renalt]

This is why I play warrior, I AM THE PARTY.

The Unga Bunga is strong in this one.

[Silverbane]

After all, the Healer should have input for how much of a pull they can handle or want to handle.

A healer has no idea how much of a pull they can handle unless they know the group, or at least the tank. For example, I've had tanks that needed constant healing for two-group pulls, and others that successfully pulled W2W with just Cardia.

So you figure it out, tacitly as you go, the tank getting a feel for the healer and the healer getting a feel for the tank.

Sometimes that means you wipe, but the only way to learn limits is to exceed them.

[Izar_Chillen]

i'll see you at the wall then *uses cooldowns and lives without a healer*

Blood Whetting is my fav part of EW

[JisKing98]

Oh i only pull one at a time if we wipe during a large pull and the heals didn't do anything to help. Can't tell you the amount of times healers think a regen is gunna save me during a mass pull.