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  1. #131
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    Arazehl's Avatar
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    Julianna Arrisit
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I get tired of hearing "the majority rules" concept. Sounds like you are forcing the one other to play in a way that may not be comfortable for them. You lose 5 mins of completion time if the pace is set at a moderate run in a HW dungeon. Compared to the time raising them from the dead or them having to respawn and run back.

    If the healer is new, then it's just too bad, so sad? The majority concept is a poor and selfish excuse. Expecting a sprout to just adapt and get over it. This greed before need mentality can make a dungeon run very unpleasant for those who are trying to progress in skill and knowledge of their roles. Remember you were there in their shoes at some point too.

    And I agree communication is key.
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    Last edited by Arazehl; 07-15-2022 at 01:16 AM.

  2. #132
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    MeeDeggiThePunisher's Avatar
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    Sevro Barca
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rilifane View Post
    So the tank sets the pace in your opinion. Which automatically means that the tank is potentially forcing others to play in a way they may not be comfortable with. But that is okay?
    Less forcing and more like the tank is just the de facto leader. The time for debate is not mid pull with the healer or DPS going ahead. Now that is forcing!
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  3. #133
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    Xaruko_Nexume's Avatar
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    Xaruko Solo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haventale View Post
    Well it’s pretty rare that I see a single-pulling tank, but regardless of anything, my general advice is:

    1) If someone isn’t being mean, then there’s no reason to be upset. They haven’t actually done anything wrong.
    2) You don’t really have a right to criticize someone playing a role you didn’t queue as. If you wanted that role to play a certain way, you should have queued as that yourself.
    3) It’s not the tank’s fault healer gameplay is designed the way it is. Blame SE if you’re bored, not the tank. They didn’t make you player healer, you chose to.
    4) Remember you’re the one who chose to queue with randoms. Nobody made you do that, that was your choice to accept getting literally any possible kind of player in this game. Maybe you should learn to accept the potential outcomes of your decisions.
    Post of the year.
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  4. #134
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    Hysterior's Avatar
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    Larek Darkholme
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    Gilgamesh
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    Sage Lv 100
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

  5. #135
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    Doc Seraph
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    Kupo <3 in the grand scheme of things is a few extra minutes going to make or break you in a mmorpg? Pull them all pull one it really won't amount to any difference in the end *shrug* <3 kupo

    Don't fret kupo <3 tell them they are doing well and use positive vibes kupo <3
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    Kupo!

  6. #136
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    ElizanderNorisse's Avatar
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    Benedictus-zos Pius
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    How about you communicate with the tank instead of forcing them to do it your own way? This is the kind of behaviour which ruins other players’ experience and making them leave the game. And I’ve encountered players with the same mindset as this when I first started tanking and they kicked me out of the dungeon for not pulling more.
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  7. #137
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    Katoar's Avatar
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    Kael Yoshim
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    I sure hope Criterion Dungeons Savage are not doable with single-pulling tanks. It would be great to give the playerbase an incentive to engage a few brain cells every now and then when tanking. It will also push away the people who are not up on the great challenge of pulling wall to wall from tank jobs.
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  8. #138
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ElizanderNorisse View Post
    How about you communicate with the tank instead of forcing them to do it your own way? This is the kind of behaviour which ruins other players’ experience and making them leave the game. And I’ve encountered players with the same mindset as this when I first started tanking and they kicked me out of the dungeon for not pulling more.
    Uhm can you read? They clearly said they communicated and got no reply. Angry much?

    Quote Originally Posted by Katoar View Post
    I sure hope Criterion Dungeons Savage are not doable with single-pulling tanks. It would be great to give the playerbase an incentive to engage a few brain cells every now and then when tanking. It will also push away the people who are not up on the great challenge of pulling wall to wall from tank jobs.
    I honestly don't think the kind of people who do single-pulls are the same who do savage. Or even just exes. Or any non-msq content at all tbh.
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  9. #139
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    Rilifane's Avatar
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    Esther Harper
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeeDeggiThePunisher View Post
    Less forcing and more like the tank is just the de facto leader. The time for debate is not mid pull with the healer or DPS going ahead. Now that is forcing!
    Who in the world made the tank the "de facto leader"? Where is it stated? No, "just trust me, bro" isn't going to cut it. A tank doesn't lead shit, period. A party is made of 4/ 8 people and nobody just gets to decide what everyone else has to do and that goes both ways - for the tank, the healer and the dps, for the slow pulls faction and for the wall to wall faction.
    What does leading even mean in that case? That you get to decide everything? That others have to silently follow your whims?

    Besides, who said anything about mid-pull? Just type at the start of the dungeon or even make a macro. If you don't have it in you to communicate, don't just silently expect others to agree with whatever you do.
    A simple "can I pull big/ slow?" is typed faster than you can load into the dungeon.
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    Last edited by Rilifane; 07-15-2022 at 02:15 AM.

  10. #140
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    ElizanderNorisse's Avatar
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    Benedictus-zos Pius
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    Uhm can you read? They clearly said they communicated and got no reply. Angry much?


    I honestly don't think the kind of people who do single-pulls are the same who do savage. Or even just exes. Or any non-msq content at all tbh.
    Umm are you okay? Did I hurt your feelings? Even so my point still stands.
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