Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
I am personally aware of cases where people have received warnings, and even 3 day bans for YPYT. You pretty much have to openly admit to what you are doing in chat to establish motive, but it is definitely seen as MPK in the eyes of the GMs.


Motive is important. YPYT seeks to intentionally undermine the efficacy of the entire party for 'revenge' against someone you feel has 'overstepped'. Pulling as a DPS is because someone wants the party to clear faster and be more efficient. One of these things is inherently malicious, the other is not.
In cases like those I don't to much care about a GMs judgment. You can't exactly claim YPYT just seeks to undermine a group when it could just be people who rather stick to their own pace which isn't malicious at at. GMs punishing that is basically them saying "were gonna punish you because you didn't give in to being forced to do more than you may be comfy with" and thats backwards.

Also can't claim DPS pulling are doing it for the party as how exactly do we know this? I've only ever seen 1 dps pull ahead while me and the other dps focus on what the tank actually pulled. In that vein to me it seems like that dps is only concerned with clearing fast for themselves as they often dip from dungeons right away when it's finished without saying a word.

It's amazing how bent out of shape folks get if they have to spend just a few extra minutes doing something. Reporting for this this petty is ridiculous ESPECIALLY when "you NEVER encounter it if you never pull ahead ". It's LITERALLY an issue you can avoid