Dragoon 6.2 Civil discussion thread

[Kolsykol]

"Wait to see what the changes are before complaining." But DRG doesn't really need changes right now? At most a couple QoL changes would be nice. But this is planned to be an extensive rework. DRG's gcds flow pretty nicely right now, and all of their ogcds have already been changed to be completely doubleweave-able with each other except for Stardiver. There are plenty of other jobs that require you to doubleweave extensively in order to maximize damage output so I don't see why this is an issue fundamentally with the job itself. If they think that that's an issue then they would have to be looking to change like 3/4ths of all the jobs in the game.

I don't think that DRG needs a rework rly.
But if they're going to get one then yeah I think we should wait and see what the changes actually are.
Otherwise people are just getting riled up and angry about something they don't even know what it is yet and might even end up enjoying.

It's another thing to discuss what you want to see and don't want to see.
But just ranting about the worst case scenario as if you know for sure it's going to happen is kinda pointless and weird and quite a lot of people are engaging in that.
If people are going to complain about it at least complain about something that is an actual thing and not just totally imagined and just wild speculation that is intentionally bad for the sake of being mad.

It kinda feels like all nuance just constantly goes out the window because people want to have an excuse to rant and complain.

[Rolder50]

But just ranting about the worst case scenario as if you know for sure it's going to happen is kinda pointless and weird and quite a lot of people are engaging in that.
If people are going to complain about it at least complain about something that is an actual thing and not just totally imagined and just wild speculation that is intentionally bad for the sake of being mad.

I find it rather understandable that people are concerned. Pretty much every single recent rework has ended up dramatically changing the job in question and alienated former players of that job.

[Naomishtola]

I find it rather understandable that people are concerned. Pretty much every single recent rework has ended up dramatically changing the job in question and alienated former players of that job.

Yeah that's my concern as well. With a lot of these reworks/changes the devs seem to pander towards 2 groups of people: people who actually enjoy and play the class... or people who don't like the class. A good example for this is summoner. Whether you love or hate the job is irrelevant, but it certainly is a far cry from what is was in Shadowbringers and lost all of its previous complexity and gameplay nuances (both good and bad) thus alienating the people who actually liked the class and just wanted to see the yank gone. I feel the same is true with samurai, the kaiten removal was simply an attempt at making the job easier and less punishing, but unlike summoner, it hasn't gotten any popularity with this change. I am not entirely sure if any dragoon main at all even asked for any change to the class aside from the obvious, when other classes seem to be needing that much more. I just don't wish to see dragoon dumbed down for the sole purpose of appealing to people who otherwise don't even touch the job, when there are 18 other classes to choose from. I hope this is not the route the devs want to take, especially since a big part of the community enjoys more challenging jobs such as black mage, however the devs do not seem to realize that.