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    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    There is a bit of a disconnect between what you're saying and what image you are using. From what you are saying I get the impression that you want to be the grey crowd.
    I think i understand. 14 in the beginning was a bit of a departure from everything. It was dark, it was gritty, it took itself seriously. Fast forward where now people are basically trying to change it and are making the game essentially a joke now. Then, when people, typically veterans of the game speak out about this they’re told they don’t belong here and the game just isn’t for them anymore(which is also basically what the devs have been hinting at with the changes in direction.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    I think i understand. 14 in the beginning was a bit of a departure from everything. It was dark, it was gritty, it took itself seriously. Fast forward where now people are basically trying to change it and are making the game essentially a joke now. Then, when people, typically veterans of the game speak out about this they’re told they don’t belong here and the game just isn’t for them anymore(which is also basically what the devs have been hinting at with the changes in direction.)
    It doesn't just happen towards the story, either. Someone speaks up about how male characters have been increasingly neglected? Same reaction. I still remember how Yoshi-P was 'surprised' that people wanted stubble for male characters despite it being a common request for years...and yet the moment the 2B gear had a visual bug an emergency statement was pushed out within a day. Funny how that works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    I think i understand. 14 in the beginning was a bit of a departure from everything. It was dark, it was gritty, it took itself seriously. Fast forward where now people are basically trying to change it and are making the game essentially a joke now. Then, when people, typically veterans of the game speak out about this they’re told they don’t belong here and the game just isn’t for them anymore(which is also basically what the devs have been hinting at with the changes in direction.)
    Aveyond wants to be both groups in that picture, whichever one suits them currently. Both implying that they're the pink group haunted by the evil grey group but very clearly wanting to be the grey group. They see a boot coming down on them but the real problem they feel is that they are not wearing the boot themselves, bringing it down on others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Aveyond wants to be both groups in that picture, whichever one suits them currently. Both implying that they're the pink group haunted by the evil grey group but very clearly wanting to be the grey group. They see a boot coming down on them but the real problem they feel is that they are not wearing the boot themselves, bringing it down on others.
    Me wanting a decent story doesn't take away the slice of life and Hildibrand style humor that was already optional content without a reward on-par with the relic attached to it. I do not care to call for that sort of content's outright removal. But it should not be present in the MSQ and now the relic to the degree that it is.
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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Aveyond wants to be both groups in that picture, whichever one suits them currently. Both implying that they're the pink group haunted by the evil grey group but very clearly wanting to be the grey group. They see a boot coming down on them but the real problem they feel is that they are not wearing the boot themselves, bringing it down on others.
    I don't get that impression at all, though I don't doubt that certain posters will seek to try and downplay any and all concerns raised despite the pretty blatant attempts to shout down and push out people from the community who dare to suggest that maybe the tone of the game is changing a little too much across the board and that there's far too much 'slice of life' content and undeserved plot armour. Though my previous post touched on what Aveyond has actually been saying across a great many posts. I've read pretty much all of them, too, I think.
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